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gardner1
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: New Garmin Reply with quote

I'm after a new Garmin with Live Traffic........but trying to find one which has built in sim......anybody know which if any models have built in sim

I know the tom tom range is the 5000 6000 models etc which i might consider but they involve 1 or 2 more screen swipes than my old go live 820 to get certain routes or request
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Garmin has a built in sim, is that really what you mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need one that the model number ends with LMT-D.
Digital Traffic. Aerial is the power lead. No other device needed.

Assuming you are in UK.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
No Garmin has a built in sim, is that really what you mean?


yes that's what i meant my go live 820 has sim card inside but i don't like the new tom toms '
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:
You need one that the model number ends with LMT-D.
Digital Traffic. Aerial is the power lead. No other device needed.

Assuming you are in UK.


so even the new digital garmin still use the power lead as aerial......is that as well as using the DAB signal
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

having used both tomtom and currently using a built-in Garmin. tomtom is better for traffic avoidance and a-b navigation. if possible id sticks to tomtom. the only thing Garmin is better at is 3rd party poi warnings. if the new tomtoms are no good to you what about a used nav 3 like the go 1005 live?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjay2412 wrote:
having used both tomtom and currently using a built-in Garmin. tomtom is better for traffic avoidance and a-b navigation. if possible id sticks to tomtom. the only thing Garmin is better at is 3rd party poi warnings. if the new tomtoms are no good to you what about a used nav 3 like the go 1005 live?


would love to keep using 820 but its the 40 + cost of live traffic which is a big sticking point
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gardner1 wrote:
so even the new digital garmin still use the power lead as aerial......is that as well as using the DAB signal
The power lead is the DAB aerial. The DAB receiver is built into the device.
The built in Garmin is likely to use RDS info. Well that's how it is in my Honda. And it's not as good as the DAB Garmin, which in turn is not as good as Google maps traffic.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to load the PGPSW cameras then it will almost certainly need to be a Garmin.

If you stick with TT then you will be faced with their camera database which has been reported to often be circa 6 months+ out of date with new and removed cameras.

I find Garmin digital traffic OK (certainly far far better than RDS traffic) but I don't use mine for navigation.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2p:

Garmin for showing POIs (including PGPSW cameras) on screen
TomTom for traffic and better (IMHO) routing.

You can apparently load third party POIs onto a modern TomTom via MyDrive so that you can navigate to those POIs but they won't show on the screen.

TomTom's own camera database is best avoided and you should use the PGPSW one instead. I run CamerAlert on a smart phone and have got used to not having POIs on the screen.

My daily use setup is TomTom GO Mobile on iPhone with CamerAlert running in the background. TomTom GO Mobile is even less developed than the current TomTom PND range and doesn't have a fully functioning MyDrive so you can't load POIs. However this can be overcome by using an iOS app called POIViewer (only a few s, but worth it) by French Kiss Development which allows me to navigate to any of my third party POIs using TomTom GO Mobile.

My Holiday set up is as above but in addition with a Garmin 770 showing the icons of the POIs. Side by side, TomTom traffic and routing beats the Garmin.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Garmin traffic though? Their current 'digital traffic' is superb, works in France too. Their older analogue traffic was pretty rubbish but was only as good as the stuff it received, the old GIGO problem.

As for routing we're all different. I switch off traffic trends as while that may be useful in bigger cities/rush hour it does seem to produce some weird routing. With it off I rarely have issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Which Garmin traffic though? Their current 'digital traffic' is superb, works in France too. Their older analogue traffic was pretty rubbish but was only as good as the stuff it received, the old GIGO problem.

I use the digital traffic (LMT-D) and side-by-side the TomTom traffic is always much better. Garmin (Inrix) traffic data doesn't work in Jersey (channel Islands) which is next to France whilst TomTom Traffic works in Jersey.

sussamb wrote:
As for routing we're all different. I switch off traffic trends as while that may be useful in bigger cities/rush hour it does seem to produce some weird routing. With it off I rarely have issues.

Switching off trafficTrends to make routing better seems bizarre. However it's tip that I'll try when I next use the Garmin.

BTW, where do I switch off trafficTrends? I've tried Settings|Traffic|trafficTrends but can't see it. Does the Garmin have to be connected to its power lead in the car and hence the digital traffic?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably. Most traffic settings aren't available until then . Sorry but I'm unable to check right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Privateer on android you can link go with mydrive and it does work.

I have two accounts one for my pnd and one for my mobile.

so you can get your poi's on the go app and navigate to them
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
Does the Garmin have to be connected to its power lead in the car and hence the digital traffic?
Yes.
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