Camera marked with red cross

b33jay · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 05, 2012 Posts: 255

What is the significance of a red cross over camera locations on the database map?

I recently noted that a camera near me (Truvelo 188805), Hexton Road, Barton, did not come up on my Garmin PGPSW. Normally, I wouldn't be running my sat nav here as it is my local area so it may have been like this for some time.

On checking the database map this camera and the adjacent mobile show with a red cross over them.

On taking another run yesterday the Garmin PGPSW shows the mobile in both directions but the fixed camera doesn't show in either direction. CamerAlert on my phone shows both the fixed and mobile locations.

Incidentally, I am sure this camera has been there for many years but it doesn't show on GSV 2014 or 2009. When was it first reported?

Kremmen · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:49 pm Post subject:

188805 is the 30mph Gatso, trapping east, that is active.

Almost in the same position is an obsolete mobile site flagged for deletion unless it gets reported again. There's another obsolete mobile a short distance to the east as well.
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MaFt · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:34 pm Post subject:

188805 is a Gatso in our database - can you confirm that it's forward-facing and I'll get that updated.

The red cross over the nearby mobile icon shows that there was a mobile here in our database but it hasn't been used for some time and is now marked as inactive. We keep them on the map so they can be located easily if they need to be reactivated rather than submitted as a new location.

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M8TJT · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:54 pm Post subject:

There seems to be a bit of an echo around here. Very Happy

Kremmen · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:01 pm Post subject:

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b33jay · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 05, 2012 Posts: 255

M8TJT · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject:

If the Truvelo is at the school entrance is trapping westbound traffic coming into the village. Then we have the direction 180 degrees wrong. as we have it trapping leaving the village. And the two deprecated mobiles don't make much sense either. Shocked

@ b33j. There are three cameras shown on the map.
1. Inactive Camera, MOBILE:16762@30, Heading:90 (Single Direction) {this is the easternmost.}
2. Inactive Camera, MOBILE:14031@30, Heading:98 (Single Direction){This is the one opposite the school loop}
3. Active Camera, GATSO:188805@30, Heading:96 (Single Direction)

The two inactive mobile cameras have the Red X through them. The Fixed camera does not so should alert. The only thing that seems to be wrong is the heading on all three (and the fact that the Gatso is actually a Truvelo, but who cares so long as it's in the right place{ish})

Kremmen · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:50 am Post subject:

Ignore the mobiles. They have reached end of life and if not reported again soon will disappear. Also ignore that the Gatso/Truvelo is almost at the same place.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to put in a change of direction for the fixed camera so it's showing the correct trapping direction.

I'd be very surprised if the Gatso isn't in the published database in the Gatso30.CSV file.
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Daggers · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:47 am Post subject:

sussamb · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:14 am Post subject:

Depends which Truvelo, original ones were forward facing only. If that one has been there for a while it will be forward facing.
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M8TJT · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:20 am Post subject:

Why would they be trapping traffic leaving the 30mph zone? And b33jay said it is trapping westbound into the village.

@b33jay. Which side (e or w) of the camera are the piezo strips and/or white lines in the road and which side of the road are they?

M8TJT · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:23 am Post subject:

b33jay · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 05, 2012 Posts: 255

Will check everything later today.

I now realise that by really enlarging the map the 30 icon is 188815 and becomes separated from mobile 14031 which has the red X. At smaller scale the two icons merge and I thought the red X was for 188815.

Is the date that 188815 was first reported available?

Kremmen · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:36 am Post subject:

Streetview hasn't got it yet, and, the 188xxx series are fairly new.

Looking at other submissions I'd guess at about 18/01/2017.

I take it the change from 188805 to 188815 is a typo ?
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