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Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject:
For anything in particular?
There are an awful lot of icons provided together with the POI files from this site.
Go to the POI download page in the "Free Downloads" link at the top of this screen to check out what's available.
Basically, I'd say it's easier to get the icons from places that do the actual POI files as well, rather than JUST the icons themselves; so as well as PGPSW, you could try any of the on-line POI libraries.
Here's my list... there may well be others.
POIplaza.com - Hungarian based, international coverage.
POIPlace.com - Netherlands based, international coverage.
POIGps.com - Italian based and coverage.
OzPOI.com - Australian based and coverage.
It's also quite easy to make your own in any "paint" program on the PC.
With the latest software, the Go1000 will accept a lot more icon sizes than previous models - (from 16x16, 22x22, 24x24, 25x25 and 44x44 at the very least!) _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-)
Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 2777 Location: Bonnie Scotland (West Central)
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:05 am Post subject:
Andy_P wrote:
For anything in particular?
There are an awful lot of icons provided together with the POI files from this site.
Go to the POI download page in the "Free Downloads" link at the top of this screen to check out what's available.
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With the latest software, the Go1000 will accept a lot more icon sizes than previous models - (from 16x16, 22x22, 24x24, 25x25 and 44x44 at the very least!)
All 22x22 user-POI icons are getting "squashed" to fit inside a box by the new v9.401 software.
Until (if ever) they fix it, you need to use the 24x24 icons for the PGPSW cameras. A lot of people have been using them for some time already.
do you know what size the icons available for download with the POIs are?
Since 9.401, some (e.g. Adsa) of my icons seem corrupted but some (e.g PO) are OK. _________________ Jock
TomTom Go 940 LIVE (9.510, Europe v915.5074 on SD & 8.371, WCE v875.3613 on board)
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:38 am Post subject:
JockTamsonsBairn wrote:
do you know what size the icons available for download with the POIs are?
Since 9.401, some (e.g. Adsa) of my icons seem corrupted but some (e.g PO) are OK.
All are 22x22 AFAIK, but unfortunately it's not something that can be changed overnight. _________________ Richard
TT 910 V7.903: Europe Map v1045
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Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject:
You might well find that any "automatic" image resizer does just as poor a job as the TomTom does!
All these programs work by adding or removing pixels, and when you only have 22x22 pixels to play with, it's easy for them to lose the sense of it.
Probably better to just open the 22x22 icons in a paint program and add another one-pixel border all the way round to make them 24x24.
The program I usually use (Photopaint) can do this quickly with it's "Paper size" function.
Also, I wouldn't be too quick to start converting all the icons yet Richard. TT are aware of this issue as a "problem" rather than a "feature" so it might go away on the next update. _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-)
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject:
Andy_P wrote:
Also, I wouldn't be too quick to start converting all the icons yet Richard. TT are aware of this issue as a "problem" rather than a "feature" so it might go away on the next update.
I'll convert, but hold back then.
Interestingly, I've come across one Icon that is 38x38 don't know how that slipped in.
It's not the changing, but the uploading, that takes the time. One at a time, manually, double checking that it goes to the right place. _________________ Richard
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Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject:
Andy_P wrote:
You might well find that any "automatic" image resizer does just as poor a job as the TomTom does!
It does indeed create a problem in that because it is 'stretching' the pixels by only 9%, it mixes and blends the various shades. It ends up a slightly paler version of the original.
By changing the Canvas Size, I'm using Paint Shop Pro, I can add the single pixel round the edge in black and keep the actual icon element the same size.
There are over 900 Subcategories to do.
Andy_P wrote:
Also, I wouldn't be too quick to start converting all the icons yet Richard. TT are aware of this issue as a "problem" rather than a "feature" so it might go away on the next update.
24x24 icons can be used on older versions of the Satnavs. Even the Classic GO could handle them with no problem.
I don't know if there would be a problem for other makes of Satnavs. _________________ Richard
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject:
I've lost track, since I set things up!
Are the 44*44 images still used, e.g. pgpsuk_gat_20_X2.bmp?
Would those work for all POIs? Are they only used for Proximity Warnings, rather than the map display? Do they need the _X2 in the name? _________________ Jock
TomTom Go 940 LIVE (9.510, Europe v915.5074 on SD & 8.371, WCE v875.3613 on board)
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject:
Yes they are still used, and they can be used for ANY POIs,but the story isn't simple and is different for NAV2 and NAV3 TomTom models...
Firstly, you have to distinguish between 44x44 "normal" icons and "X2" icons
A 44x44 icon can now be used on the devices as the "normal" icon (as can just about any size between 16x16 and 44x44).
On NAV3 they are shown at their actual size, but on NAV2 they are being re-sized (causing the "squashing" of 22x22 icons).
NAV2:
NAV3:
As you can see, NAV2 and NAV3 models are showing them differently at the moment and there are problems with transparent icons showing red in most sizes on NAV2 and problems with the "pointer" position" on NAV3.
It still seems to be "work in progress" as something changes every time there's a new software version!
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Now, once you add the "_X2" icons for POI warnings, to give you the larger icon in the top left, this is what you get on the driving view display as you approach a camera:
NAV2 with the "_X2.bmp" icon file:
NAV2 without it:
NAV3 with the "_X2.bmp" icon file:
NAV3 without it:
So, yes, they are still useful! _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-)
Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 2777 Location: Bonnie Scotland (West Central)
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject:
I've found that using Gimp and David’s Batch Processor (DBP) was good enough, for my personal use, to produce the 24x24s. It's made a reasonable job of the 44x44, but not as good as an expert doing it by hand! _________________ Jock
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