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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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As will BeThere and you get an ADSL2+ connection (if your exchange supports it).
Very impressed with BeThere, super connection, no throttling, no slowdowns in the evening and great support.
But we're assuming Paul wants to change providers when he really just wants a new router!
On that note I've found Netgear much better than Linksys which used to be my router make of choice. Linksys gone down the pan post Cisco buy out. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm never thought of asking Virgin for a router....
Personally i prefer Belkin... |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Belkin have some good kit but they seem hell bent on constantly producing kit with unratified speeds which puts me off.
I'd rather a supported/approved speed device. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm VM will only give me a "free" router if i am on the top package (I'm on 2nd top) which is an extra £11 a month or i can pay £40 for it.
Cheaper on eBay i think. Plus I'll know what I'm buying an should be able to get a N router instead of just G. |
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Mullet Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 1051
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | I hear ya but I could download a prog and hack your WEP password in 30 secs. |
Looked at this last year and I got the impression that you could start capturing data packets, but it took an age to capure enough (dependant on traffic volume) to analyse an figure the WEP key. Has this changed? |
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253 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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WEP is just about OK to put off the 'casual' snooper - but thats all.
WPA 2 is the best at the moment, but I wouldn't say it's 100%
Many routers use WPA -PSK as the standard Home security, and this has been broke. There is software that uses 'brute force' as it's called to break the code.
Hiding the SSID, is not that good either.
There are packets out there for free to use on Linux, Mac and Windows that will 'see' hidden SSIDs.
Best is wired network. But when choosing a password, don't just use a word. Use the 1st, 2nd - 3rd letters of a phrase for example, and stick in a few random numbers or punctuation.
I Wandered Lonely As A(@) Cloud - for example.
_________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Use the highest level of security that you can WEP (weak) -- WPA (better) -- WPA2 (best).
Don't bother with a complex SSID, they are easy to pick up so it makes no difference.
Switch off SSID broadcast if you can (stops casual observers seeing your Wireless network) but don't worry too much if you can't do this. There are lots of tools out there that can detect non-broadcast SSIDs anyway.
ALWAYS use a strong (20 characters or more) pre-shared key or password so it's more difficult to crack. Make sure it's *randomly generated* string of giberish and NOT any dictionary word or phrase. You don't have to remember it so it doesn't matter if it's complex.
Extra strength is added by including non-alphanumeric characters but you can use a longer one with just letters if you prefer. _________________ Gone fishing! |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15146 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Skippy wrote: | ALWAYS use a strong (20 characters or more) pre-shared key or password so it's more difficult to crack. Make sure it's *randomly generated* string of giberish and NOT any dictionary word or phrase. You don't have to remember it so it doesn't matter if it's complex. |
well, until your mate calls round and needs to connect his laptop or phone, or you get a new games console and need to connect that too...
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Mullet Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 1051
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Save it on a text file . Copy & paste is your friend. |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15146 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Mullet wrote: | Save it on a text file . Copy & paste is your friend. |
not on a Wii |
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Mullet Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 1051
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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One time annoyance, read the text file. Spectacles may be your friend.
The point is as Skippy says, you dont need to remember it. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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My key is 48 characters long, including spaces, funny punctuation and unlikely capitals (admittedly, I really only use those in case MaFt comes sneaking round here). One of my new toys refused to allow me to copy and paste passwords.
It took me at least an hour of serious cursing to type the thing into my new wireless all in one printer with its fiddly keys.
I don't remember it, I have it written on a piece of paper at the side of the PC, same as all my secret IDs and passwords. Blu-tack is a blessing, innit? _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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Pocketgps Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got my WiFi to work with the WAP security which seems to be the highest available with the router my ISP provides.
One main problem with this router is that I cannot get it to work with my FTP program WS_FTP Home. This happens even if I use the cable to connect the router to my pc or wireless. So for now I will just use my normal modem and only power the router up when I use my netbook. |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15146 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Pocketgps: you may need to set up Port Forwarding for FTP. http://portforward.com/ has a lot of good info.
MaFt |
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Oct 15, 2008 Posts: 1936
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | My key is 48 characters long, including spaces, funny punctuation and unlikely capitals (admittedly, I really only use those in case MaFt comes sneaking round here). One of my new toys refused to allow me to copy and paste passwords.
It took me at least an hour of serious cursing to type the thing into my new wireless all in one printer with its fiddly keys.
I don't remember it, I have it written on a piece of paper at the side of the PC, same as all my secret IDs and passwords. Blu-tack is a blessing, innit? |
Hi DennisN, Have you considered using a password manager? I use http://www.keepassx.org/ (versions available for Linux, Windows and MAC) and, touch wood, have not been disappointed by it yet. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
Android with CamerAlert, OsmAnd+, Waze & TT Europe.
TomTom GO 730, GO 930, GO 940 & Rider2.
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