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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Speed cams & new maps Reply with quote

Hey everyone,

With the imminent release of a new map upon us.
I was wondering what effect this will have on me with regard to the speed cams files.
I understand i will need to copy them into the new map folder but what about the custom warnings i use with the cams?
Do i have to hope that these transfer with the map config file?

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The custom warnings are saved in the mapsettings.cfg file. Whilst you can copy this between devices using the same map version it is not advised to do so between devices or maps of differing versions.

You can of course try, but be sure to save a copy of the original mapsettings.cfg file from your new map first. If it works, great, if it doesn't then you will have to re-configure the alerts.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual sign of the old MapSettings.cfg not working with a new map are often constant re-boots when you power up the device, if it does this delete the file and configure your warnings again, if it works its saved you five minutes - Mike
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:
The usual sign of the old MapSettings.cfg not working with a new map are often constant re-boots when you power up the device, if it does this delete the file and configure your warnings again, if it works its saved you five minutes - Mike


Mike. whilst i value you vast knowledge and experiance, it is a little more than 5 minutes when you use custon text for each each warning. It is a pain typing in each message and then you have to double check each one and then triple check. Its pointless having them if you make a silly mistakes hence the triple check.

Cross my fingers and hope the config transfers over ok!
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In which case yes that is an issue, all you can do is try it as suggested. If it doesn't work then you will have to re-enter your warnings or consider using built-in or real voice alerts.

You could record your own real voice warning and use that?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrfreeze wrote:
mikealder wrote:
The usual sign of the old MapSettings.cfg not working with a new map are often constant re-boots when you power up the device, if it does this delete the file and configure your warnings again, if it works its saved you five minutes - Mike


Mike. whilst i value you vast knowledge and experiance, it is a little more than 5 minutes when you use custon text for each each warning. It is a pain typing in each message and then you have to double check each one and then triple check. Its pointless having them if you make a silly mistakes hence the triple check.

Cross my fingers and hope the config transfers over ok!


how about this:

type out all your warnings in word / notepad etc and save it on your computer.

install the speed cam files normally

use HOME to set up the warnings and you can then copy & paste the text instead of typing it each time?

must be quicker than typing on the device itself?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
use HOME to set up the warnings and you can then copy & paste the text instead of typing it each time?

Sorry, no that doesn't work. Sad Using the Home emulator, you can only choose from the sound effects. You can't do any of the voice options.

I had manual warnings before (with extra effects that take even longer to 'type') but have had to go back to the ogg files as it takes so long.

BTW, TomTom support don't have a clue how to do it any easier. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just rename the camera files from this site to names like "20 mph mobile camera.ov2" and set TT "Warn When Near POI" to "Brief Spoken Warning" and it says "20 miles per hour mobile camera 200 yards", no having to type out the words.

Don't use the long spoken warning or it will also tell you the distance to the next POI in the same category.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a 3,5MM to 3,5MM stereo lead to connect the line out socket on the omTom to the sound line input on the PC, then use Audacity to record each of the audio files, you need to save them as OOG Vorbis and make sure the file name matches the coresponding speed camera POI file name.
Once you have a full set you will be able to set up the speed zoned database in under 5 minutes (with a little practice) - Mike
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrT, yes i have tried it that way, but i didn't like the having to rename the files. I even suggested they were distributed that way so everyone could do that. This was denied as they want the name in there for piracy reasons.

OK Mike, you win, yes it would be 5 mins once you have the ogg files, but what about the hour or so to do the other work? Also at this stage i don't have a 3.5 lead. But i will consider this for future upgrades, thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renaming the files is easy, just extract them to a folder and run a batch file. If you are not sure on how to do this, open notepad, copy the bold lines below into it then save the file as "rename.bat" into the folder with the camera files and run it each time you download the latest camera set. As long as you are entitled to use the camera files and do not copy them to anyone else , I cannot see any copyright problems with this.


ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.* "20 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.* "30 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.* "40 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.* "50 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.* "60 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.* "70 mph speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.* "unknown speed camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.* "variable speed camera.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.* "20 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.* "30 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.* "40 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.* "50 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.* "60 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.* "70 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.* "unknown speed mobile camera.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_20.* "possible 20 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_30.* "possible 30 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_40.* "possible 40 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_50.* "possible 50 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_60.* "possible 60 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_70.* "possible 70 mph mobile camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_tba.* "possible mobile camera.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_specs_20.* "20 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_30.* "30 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_40.* "40 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_50.* "50 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_60.* "60 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_70.* "70 mph specs camera.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.* "possible specs camera.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_redlight.* "redlight camera.*"

pause


If you use the X2 icons you can do the same here, but save it as a different filename eg "X2.bat" although it is only the OV2 files you need to update each month.


ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_20_X2.* "20 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_30_X2.* "30 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_40_X2.* "40 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_50_X2.* "50 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_60_X2.* "60 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_70_X2.* "70 mph speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba_X2.* "unknown speed camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_gatso_var_X2.* "variable speed camera_X2.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_20_X2.* "20 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_30_X2.* "30 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_40_X2.* "40 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_50_X2.* "50 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_60_X2.* "60 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_70_X2.* "70 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba_X2.* "unknown speed mobile camera_X2.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_20_X2.* "possible 20 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_30_X2.* "possible 30 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_40_X2.* "possible 40 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_50_X2.* "possible 50 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_60_X2.* "possible 60 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_70_X2.* "possible 70 mph mobile camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_pmobile_tba_X2.* "possible mobile camera_X2.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_specs_20_X2.* "20 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_30_X2.* "30 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_40_X2.* "40 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_50_X2.* "50 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_60_X2.* "60 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_70_X2.* "70 mph specs camera_X2.*"
ren pocketgps_uk_specs_tba_X2.* "possible specs camera_X2.*"

ren pocketgps_uk_redlight_X2.* "redlight camera_X2.*"

pause

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That "brief spoken warning" is a nice method, Mr T.
In fact I used it for a while but never got round to finding out how to write the batch file!
I only stopped because I wanted a spoken warning AND a sound effect siren at the front, so now I use ogg files directly stored in the sounds folder (as in this topic) with simple names putting the speed limit FIRST

Shame, I could leave them as the default PGPSW names if the names could be juggled so the PGPSW was at the END of the name rather than the beginning (as the y already are for othe POIs from this site. But I was told it would be too much work to change the ov2 file to match so it still worked for people adding the voice alerts by the old "matching names" method.

Now you've done such a good description of your method, MrT, I thought I might do another write up describing all four(?) methods of getting spoken speed limit /camera warnings in one place. May I use your text? (with ample credit, of course!)

EDIT: to sort out duff link


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel free to use my text in this group, it is there to help all users. If you have server space available I would suggest having the batch file available as a download.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to come back to this and say that the mapconfig transferred over with only a little glitch with the reboot until i ran "operate my go" then it booted fine.

MrT, thanks for your input on the batch file info.
I would like to take more time with this in the future and write my own text for future updates.
Would you mind if i pick your brains on the rules for using the ren command?
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrfreeze wrote:
MrT,
Would you mind if i pick your brains on the rules for using the ren command?


You can try, but my memory on this is very rusty as it around 20 years ago when I was writing DOS batch files and the windows command line is not exactly the same. You can get some help by typing in a command window "command /?" where "command" is "ren" or any other command.
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