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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: Does TT really do streetmap level in Spain? |
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I've got a Medion GPS, I have maps for UK and for Spain, Portugal and Gibraltar.
The unit is ok, frustating that in the UK I can't enter full 7 character postcodes, and that in Spain even in reasonably large towns it only displays larger streets, and in villages eg where we have a house the village is displayed as a blob with no possibility of any detail or navigation to a particular street, (and our house is in the widest street in the village, not one 4 feet wide and only suitable for mopeds).
I need something better. I've tried via the laboriously frustrating TT website to ask if TT really do do real street level mapping of Spain (as they seem to do for England), and received no reply.
I could draw the conclusion that TT do NOT do street level mapping for Spain apart from major cities.
TT can't prove me wrong, can any of you out there tell me the real story? And if so, which model I should consider?
Thanks - BB |
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Stanley_Tweedle Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't used it in Spain but the map looks well detailed (TT Go 910). You can never say it has every road or street (we can't even say that for UK). My understanding is that the 710 and 910 have Street level mapping but the 510 has major roads only (ie City to City).
If you want to try some road some village/street names then post them here and we will see if they are on the map. |
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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Stanley_Tweedle
Village Name: Competa
Street Name: Avenida Sayalonga
Postcode: 29754 (in Malaga province). |
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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Stanley_T
One more in a neioghbouring village, slightly smaller village and street
Village: Canillas de Albaida
Street: Calle Santa Ana
Postcode:29755 (in Malaga province) |
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sgould Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I asked the same question a few weeks back.
The map I have on my 700 which is nearly 2 years old now is a bit vague, but OK in cities and main roads, but the latest map looks a lot better.
Have a looka at the comparison here:
http://www.yournav.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9226 _________________ TTGO 700 (dead)
iPhone 3GS + TT holder
iPhone 5 (hers!)
Western Europe Map
Eastern Europe Map
Kenwood DNX-4210DAB with Garmin maps |
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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your interest sgould.
The second map from bolin is about as detailed (even less?) than I currently get for Canillas de Albaida, on my Medion, which is really less than useless.
In case anyone thinks thatt Spain is a backward country or stuck in a timewarp, there are Spanish government websites that have aerial photos showing boundaries of "parcels" of land (often countryside) which are used in conjunction with planning applications; so the detail is there. I'm just concerned that it's not applied to the GPS systems we use in our cars.
Trying to find a UK retailer that actually has a working system, be it TT or anyone else in their shop also seems to be impossible. You wouldn't spend 3, 4 or 500 pounds on a sofa without trying it out, why should you be expected to do so on a GPS. Someone prove me wrong, please. |
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Stanley_Tweedle Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Avenida De Sayalonga in Competo is there.
I can find a Calle Monte Santa Ana for Canillas de Albaida, don't know of that's the same road or not though.
Generally detail looks good in these areas with quite a few surrounding adjoining roads.
This is on the TT Go 910 which uses Tele Atlas maps. |
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Stanley_Tweedle Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Halfords used to have the Tomtoms set up and working although now they have locked them behind glass. PC world also used to have but now they seemed to have them switched off. I would have thought though that you could persuade either of these shops to let you have a play; problem is then not letting them talk you into buying! |
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RQ Regular Visitor
Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 240 Location: Clevedon
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just looked for Canillas de Albaida but the street came up as Calle Monte Santa Ana and not as you have posted. All the streets appear to be there - I've just checked on Autoroute. Some of the names are slightly different but I suspect there is some "anglicising" of foreign names going on.
My sat nav is shown below
Hope this helps _________________ RQ
TT1v3 6.560 1713 UK&NI 660.1199
TTG700 6.520 1387 MoWE 660.1219 |
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Robin2 Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Stanley_Tweedle wrote: | Avenida De Sayalonga in Competo is there.
I can find a Calle Monte Santa Ana for Canillas de Albaida, don't know of that's the same road or not though.
Generally detail looks good in these areas with quite a few surrounding adjoining roads.
This is on the TT Go 910 which uses Tele Atlas maps. |
Exactly the same on my TomTom One v2, which uses NavTeq
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used |
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Robin2 Lifetime Member
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Robin2 wrote: | Stanley_Tweedle wrote: | Avenida De Sayalonga in Competo is there.
I can find a Calle Monte Santa Ana for Canillas de Albaida, don't know of that's the same road or not though.
Generally detail looks good in these areas with quite a few surrounding adjoining roads.
This is on the TT Go 910 which uses Tele Atlas maps. |
Exactly the same on my TomTom One v2, which uses NavTeq
Robin |
Sorry, for the second, Calle Santa Ana is shown on my Navteq map
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used |
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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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All
I recall Calle Santa Ana as that (without the Monte) although in some parts of the village (and elsewhere) some houses have two numbers (eg 5 and 8) so a little inconsistency is possible!
My experience of Halfords is exactly that - behind glass or a series of different devices locked into perspex but not acutually working. Might give PC World a try. I definitely want to try before buying.
I have seen Navman advertised in Spain, but not sure that it has detail beyond te major towns.
I appreciate all of your help and feedback. - BB |
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sgould Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Hi again! The detail shown on the second map posted in my reply above was some way from the best resolution. If you scroll in you can see all the streets and names. Screen dump from my 2 year old map.
I have a screen dump of Canillas de Albaida from my 2 yr old map here:
Both maps still have some more details available as you can scroll in further. _________________ TTGO 700 (dead)
iPhone 3GS + TT holder
iPhone 5 (hers!)
Western Europe Map
Eastern Europe Map
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bearsieboo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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sgould
Thanks for continuing to help.
Your second screenshot of Canillas looks good. I've compared it against Via Michelin and it matches up very well.
Robin
Thanks to you too for double checking Santa Ana.
Looks like you've convinced me. I think it's Navteq maps that I have on my Medion Navigator MDPNA175 version 4.4 (I think).
Time to find a retailer to let me play before buying. |
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tomjeffs Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I used TomTom v5 on my mobile last year in Spain, the map is pretty good. Some roundabouts are incorrectly shown as crossroads and vice versa, but otherwise you won't have any problems navigating around. |
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