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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:00 am Post subject: Converting ov2 to csv |
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I have some custom POI's which I made on my TomTom. I have now gone to Garmin and have converted them to csv files, using a online converter. I am coming up against some issues though and am not sure if it is corruption or added by the converter. I am seeing the following entries when opening in Notepad:
1.70118,57.472,"A"
-6.73973 , 50.41807,"A"
-1.57843 , 53.40815,"A"
-6.73973 , 50.41807,"A"
-2.71438 , 53.40815,"A"
-6.73973 , 50.41807,"A"
-3.3722 , 53.40815,"A"
-6.73973 , 50.41807,"A"
-3.013 , 53.40769,"A"
-3.3722 , 50.41807,"A"
There are quite a few of these similar entries throughout the file. Putting the co- ordinates into Google Maps shows the locations to all be around the Seychelles/ Mogadishu area. So I know these files aren't put there by me, am I right to think I can just delete all of these? Would love to know where the entries have all come from!!
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Mark _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Toronto CANADA
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Might the lat/long be reversed? _________________ David |
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Could be, but i'm not very techie when it comes to things like this . I was just trying that when your reply came in, but I have still found locations in the North Sea and the middle of the English Channel!! Very confusing as I know I have never had my satnav in those areas to mark the location. Am also trying to use Streetview to locate these places, some very strange places coming up!!
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I believe it was the online converter that was causing the issues. I have found that POIEditor will convert from ov2 to csv, despite being really old software
So, one last question, how do I translate the co- ordinates N 52°30.802' W 001°52.343 into the format in the post above please?
Is it as simple as 52.30802, 1.52343?
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Mark _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to keep going on, but I am getting confused now. The co- ordinates I gave above were saved in my Garmin as a My Favourite. I saved them whilst on site, with full satellite reception. My Garmin reports the saved location as N 52°30.802' W 001°52.343. If I put those on Google Maps and change lat/ long +/- around, the location varies between Leamington Spa and Lowestoft.
If I go to Google Maps and look for the place the actual destination is, it is shown as 52.512635, -1.872051. Vey confused as to why my Garmin and Google fail to agree.
Mark _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7149 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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They do agree but in a different way. I can't remember which does which but one of them uses the -1 whereas the other uses +1 west as opposed to +1 east taken from the Greenwich starting point.
I fell foul of that recently and sussamb told me off
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dales Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 754 Location: Knaresborough, North Yorkshire.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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There are 60 minutes in a degree.
So take the minutes element (eg 30.802) and divide by 60 to get the decimal degrees component (0.513367). Add back the units of degrees (52) and the conversion is done (52.513367 degrees North).
Repeat for the West component. 52.343 minutes, divided by 60 is 0.872383 degrees. Add back the units gives the answer (1.872383 degrees West).
If there isn't a letter for E or W, then a Minus sign is used to denote West ie -1.872383.
Dales. _________________ nuvi 2599LMT-D, oregon 700, basecamp, memory-map. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Surely + is East and - is West. As per the time zones and internationally agreed co-ordinate system
The Garmin indicated N 52°30.802' W 001°52.343. If I . Which is West of the Greenwich meridian so is a negative number if the W is left off. That location is a shed just off the M6 just north of Birmingham. The other value ( E 001°52.343) is in the North Sea off Lowestoft.
52.512635, -1.872051 is pretty much the same as N 52°30.802' W 001°52.343 expressed as decimal degrees rather than DMS and is still a shed just off the M6 north of Birmingham. |
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dales Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 754 Location: Knaresborough, North Yorkshire.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes indeed, + is East and - is West.
Just as I said above.
Dales. _________________ nuvi 2599LMT-D, oregon 700, basecamp, memory-map. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. That's what you said while I was typing |
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | 52.512635, -1.872051 is pretty much the same as N 52°30.802' W 001°52.343 expressed as decimal degrees rather than DMS and is still a shed just off the M6 north of Birmingham. |
Hopefully a "shed" in an industrial estate _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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That's what it looks like to me.
Ah. I see what you mean. Google is your friend |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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dhn wrote: | Might the lat/long be reversed? | They must be to get the right locations in Google maps. Lat comes first. |
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Anita Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 3219 Location: Windlesham, Surrey
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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dales wrote: | There are 60 minutes in a degree.
So take the minutes element (eg 30.802) and divide by 60 to get the decimal degrees component (0.513367). Add back the units of degrees (52) and the conversion is done (52.513367 degrees North).
Repeat for the West component. 52.343 minutes, divided by 60 is 0.872383 degrees. Add back the units gives the answer (1.872383 degrees West).
If there isn't a letter for E or W, then a Minus sign is used to denote West ie -1.872383. |
Much easier to use this site's DMS to Decimal Coordinates Convertor. _________________ Anita
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but it doesn't explain the technique used |
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