Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

Almahadeus · Frequent Visitor Joined: Aug 06, 2005 Posts: 346

Once again on behalf of all the other members of this big community I would like to extend my gratitude to all those who work very hard to maintain this site and make it the fantastic resource that it is. I am sure that the Mods were only trying to start a consultation process with us regarding this idea of charging and hear the community's views. Now that our views are as clear as they could get and that it is very obvious that the results of their research on their meeting in Basingstock were not at all representative of the whole community's opinion, it is their turn to thank all the contributors to this debate and more importantly to the database and declare their idea of charging full of flaws and caveats and would definitly announce the death of this great website.

mjhodgson · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 16, 2004 Posts: 3

Whatever you decide to do, please provide an alternative to PayPal. I know I and probably a lot of others will not touch PayPal with a very long barge pole. Friend Reunited charge a fiver a year for site extras on credit card.

Vortex · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject:

Whilst I am a "newbie" as far as posting here is concerned, I have been visiting the site/forums for a couple of years and have downloaded the database via different ISPs. You want to be more professional? Do some real market research and, as a number of people have suggested, have a proper poll and make the details available. Put it on the database download page so that you get a real idea of whether or not you'll have a customer base and keep your contributors. If the majority really don't mind paying it will make your business plan much more secure and perhaps the minority will then change their minds. I'm not personally in favour of paying but but maybe I'm just one of a handfull. You'll never silence your critics without evidence (plus it will give you a warm feeling if you're shown to be correct). Not having a poll gives the impression that you don't think it will go in your favour. Have the courage of your convictions!

jpkeates · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 13, 2004 Posts: 24

I'm not averse to paying for something that is useful to me.

However, two points:

Paying monthly (particularly a small amount) is a pain in the bum, and I can see myself missing some months just because it's too much trouble and I'm lazy.

A subscription for access to enhanced services is one thing, a fee for downloading a product (or update) is quite another. You'll be subject to the usual consumer legislation. So the Sale of Goods Act mean the product will have to be of reasonable quality and so on. It's a big jump from allowing your bandwidth to be used to download a file maintained by someone else, to being the seller of your own product.

Based on the responses here, I think you should also consider how to recompense your contributors who look like they won't support your commercial endeavour.

iankb · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:

ChrisCubed · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 01, 2005 Posts: 28

s_roberts · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 08, 2005 Posts: 20

I actually think that they have made their decision, there will be a charge for this database - what a shame, this used to be an excellent web site, and for all that money we won't really see an benefit to the end user !!

DaveO1959 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 23

Almahadeus · Frequent Visitor Joined: Aug 06, 2005 Posts: 346

Just look at this thread for god's sake. Who needs a poll when you have 35 pages of objections building up over the last couple of days from people of this very community. If nobody can see the resentment here about this idea of suddenly "turning professionals" then something is seriously wrong.

Andy_P · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject:

Better get in again before they lock this thread now. Evil or Very Mad

The obvious place for a poll would be to tie it in with the January download. Then, all the (probably the majority) of users who have no idea what is about to happen, will be able to see and vote. (I'll not get started on the wording of the poll question).

Secondly, I must say that obviously nothing that has been said here against the changes, seems to have made a blind bit of difference to the descision already made. The "official" replies have been terribly selective in what points they answer, and deleting posts, changing people's signatures and removing links, shows an arrogance and lack of feeling that astounds me.

Thirdly, another point. Hopefully in the past I have made a useful contribution to the forum in general, I have really enjoyed helping other people with their problems where I can (and a great many problems have been sorting out the convoluted and not terribly well explained contents of the camera POI download package!).
Did you owners of the site not think that as well as the input of new cameras drying up, many contributors to the forums may simply go elsewhere too, impoverishing your knowledge base and the usefulness of the forum to everyone? Or do you just not care about the forums that much?

MaFt · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject:

pinger · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 12, 2005 Posts: 12

As these cameras are placed where there is a security issue, is it not in the interest of the Police to make as many people know of these cameras as possible? FOI and all that should surely help our case for having these locations posted by the relevant authority.

If having to pay for the service, I would rather go to TomTom which manually verifies each location.

MaFt · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

alix776 · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject:

I would rather go to TomTom which manually verifies each location.

do they really ????

how many updates do you get for 50 quid a year
_________________
currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .

Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl

ps73uk · Regular Visitor Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 116

	PocketGPS
	Web