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1005 HD Traffic USELESS (and now older models too!)
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AndyVaughan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it is the fact you are on Nav8 and not Nav9.

I grabbed some screenshots off of mine today whilst it had a gps lock - it takes a good minute for the HD traffic to connect from power on and it still downloaded a good 100 miles plus and within a second or two it was back to 50 miles. I will upload them to photobucket as one set was taken at the services on the M6 toll so reaches London easily until the device throws it all away.

I'm sorry, but if I am halfway down the M6 Toll I need to know which route to take to London - M1 or M40 - and I can't make that decision if my TT doesn't use the traffic data.

It was chaos around Brum this morning with the M5 closure, and my TT was not warning me of this from the start of the journey. Poor show!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes could be due to the Navcore version. Strangely, the way mine seems to work is probably what TT intended to happen when they were trying to reduce server download volume. The way yours works dosen't make any difference to the download volume - so maybe TT have messed up their own "fix" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just uploaded these to the facebook page in higher quality, along with a commentary. Worth a look as today was a really good example of how poor it is with the reduced range.

Keep spreading the word - almost 300 members now
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth; today I left Ammanford for Swindon at around 12:30. Now we all know the problem at the M4 tunnels near Newport; it's been all over the radio today. The traffic reports were saying extreme delays from jct27 through to jct24. The motorway overhead gantries were confirming this and suggesting taking the A470 north. TomTom 550 Live was indicating a mere 3 minutes delay. Which/who do you believe? I decided to stick on the M4. As I approached jct27 TomTom announced delay had increased to 7 minutes. I decided again to stick with the M4; glad I did; the delay was under 2 minutes! What does this tell us? I'm not sure, but generally I tend to believe TomTom.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The algorithm that they seem to need equates proximity to length of delay, something like 5 minutes at 10 miles, 10 minutes at 20 miles etc. Then overall any delay on the route that has been around longer than an hour should be included wherever it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psyskiesman wrote:
For what it's worth; today I left Ammanford for Swindon at around 12:30. Now we all know the problem at the M4 tunnels near Newport; it's been all over the radio today. The traffic reports were saying extreme delays from jct27 through to jct24. The motorway overhead gantries were confirming this and suggesting taking the A470 north. TomTom 550 Live was indicating a mere 3 minutes delay. Which/who do you believe? I decided to stick on the M4. As I approached jct27 TomTom announced delay had increased to 7 minutes. I decided again to stick with the M4; glad I did; the delay was under 2 minutes! What does this tell us? I'm not sure, but generally I tend to believe TomTom.


No one is saying they don't believe TomTom, but we want all the information, when you left I doubt the incident at Newport appeared on your TomTom, in fact I bet the roadside gantries displayed more info than your tomtom, but you continued on, and as you came close enough the issue was displayed. What most people want is the information from the start, so they can override the tomtom and choose a different route. In your case maybe the A465 and along the heads of the valleys road to Raglan would have been a better choice, or the southern distribution road around Newport, but to wait until you are almost on top of an incident removes some of those choices as you are thenrestricted/ committed to a few escape routes(if they exist) along with everyone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And for what it's worth, my next door neighbour spent five hours yesterday travelling from Bristol to Bridgend.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
And for what it's worth, my next door neighbour spent five hours yesterday travelling from Bristol to Bridgend.


Wasn't that a line from a Max Boyce song?????
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live and often work within 20-30 mins or so of the M4 Newport incident at Bryn Glas Tunnels, and having to pass though or nearby several times yesterday and today, my TomTom was a lot more accurate than the news reports or some other traffic services, which also resulted in me taking the M4 (the TomTom recommended route) and arriving on time (or just about)

So whatever else people say about HD Traffic, and no service is 100%, it seems to be the best out there
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give up - I've been looking at his biography in wikipedia for the last half hour and damned if I can find it!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Out Loud - I am sure it was something about having to stop the bus 15 times between somewhere and Bridgend, but I could be wrong
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xtraseller wrote:
I live and often work within 20-30 mins or so of the M4 Newport incident at Bryn Glas Tunnels, and having to pass though or nearby several times yesterday and today, my TomTom was a lot more accurate than the news reports or some other traffic services, which also resulted in me taking the M4 (the TomTom recommended route) and arriving on time (or just about)

So whatever else people say about HD Traffic, and no service is 100%, it seems to be the best out there


No one is complaining about the accuracy of the data regarding incidents - I think you have missed the point of the thread entirely.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyVaughan wrote:
xtraseller wrote:
I live and often work within 20-30 mins or so of the M4 Newport incident at Bryn Glas Tunnels, and having to pass though or nearby several times yesterday and today, my TomTom was a lot more accurate than the news reports or some other traffic services, which also resulted in me taking the M4 (the TomTom recommended route) and arriving on time (or just about)

So whatever else people say about HD Traffic, and no service is 100%, it seems to be the best out there


No one is complaining about the accuracy of the data regarding incidents - I think you have missed the point of the thread entirely.

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