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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject:
xtraseller wrote:
I agree, it is wise to outsource manufacturing - it gives flexability and a supple cost control arm when demands increases and decreases
There's disadvantages as well. Keep the profit from manufacturing yourself (Garmin) or give it to someone else to make it for you. Keep the trade secrets to yourself as much as possible, or send them to a Chinese company to do the building and share (unofficially?) the technology with other Chinese manufacturers, allowing them to build and sell near identical Tomtom's, iPhones, iPods and the like. Pros and cons both ways. _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr.
That's my device (TTGo1000), all updated as promised by TT
I know it isn't the same for everyone, but it works for me and many others, so you cannot say it cannot or has not been achieved. It is a fact _________________ TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject:
Looking at the whole debacle, it sounds like "attempted" to me, extraseller.
I've got the updates too, but that's no comfort to the MAJORITY who it seems haven't got all or any of them so far, or the unfortunates who have had their units COMPLETELY BRICKED by the map update or lost LIVE Services after it
Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 1262 Location: West London
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:40 pm Post subject:
gatorguy6996 wrote:
Keep the trade secrets to yourself as much as possible, or send them to a Chinese company to do the building and share (unofficially?) the technology with other Chinese manufacturers, allowing them to build and sell near identical Tomtom's, iPhones, iPods and the like. Pros and cons both ways.
And if the Chinese get it to work better and sell it cheaper....I'll probably buy one! _________________ Mike R [aka Wyvern46]
Go 530T - unsupported
Go550 Live [not renewed]
Kia In-dash Tomtom
That's my device (TTGo1000), all updated as promised by TT
I know it isn't the same for everyone, but it works for me and many others, so you cannot say it cannot or has not been achieved. It is a fact
And how long did you have to wait for TT to tick those boxes. Your bought you TT1000 when?.......
And i'm sure there's a few more boxes that need to be tick _________________ Keith
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Joined: Feb 07, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Cambridge UK
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject:
xtraseller wrote:
That's my device (TTGo1000), all updated as promised by TT
I know it isn't the same for everyone, but it works for me and many others, so you cannot say it cannot or has not been achieved. It is a fact
Well count my Go 1005 (purchased about 10 december as one not updated.
I have also been waiting 52 days for Tomtom to dispatch a Go 1000 mount (with no explanation or applogy. I think that their profits should be down more in the next quarter. _________________ Tomtom Go 1005
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Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Posts: 330 Location: Midlothian
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject:
There's far more competition now, the profit slump is to be expected imo. They are still doing pretty well but need to avoid upsetting customers with things like the Easymenu system which had a ridiculous lack of features to begin with.
Joined: 15/07/2003 22:59:27 Posts: 1050 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject:
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I've got the updates too, but that's no comfort to the MAJORITY who it seems haven't got all or any of them so far, or the unfortunates who have had their units COMPLETELY BRICKED by the map update or lost LIVE Services after it
I would like to know where you get your data from the confirm as you do that the majority haven't got the updates? That is quite a statement from a PGPSW moderator, and I hope you can back it up
Just relying on forum posts to qualify this is useless - lets me honest, we don't go searching out and then posting on forums just to say "everythings fine" - most people when something works (as it should) say and post nothing
Only the (few?) people with genuine problems then carry on a post... and if you take off all those miserable complainers on here to knock the 1000/5 series but either / or don't have one / never tried one and maybe its not anywhere near your claimed majority after all
As to when I purchased my unit, it was October 2010
It puts my Garmin 2310 and 765T to shame - even before the updates and custom pois _________________ TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14892 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:55 am Post subject:
xtraseller wrote:
most people when something works (as it should) say and post nothing
But you are indeed posting that your GO1000 is a superb bit of kit.
TomTom's own website offers the following list of functionality, my X shows they say it isn't functioning, Y shows they say it is functioning.
Latest Map Guarantee - X
Speed Cameras - Y
Fuel Prices - X
Backing up - X
Adding POIs - X
Map Update Service - Y
New Maps - X
Downloading Voices - X
Quickgpsfix (non-Live) - X
Map Share - X
Sharing Favourites - X
By my reckoning, that's 2 working and 9 not working. But actually, how can the map update service work if the new maps don't? Confusing - surely all it means is you can join up (pay for it) although you can't actually get any new maps. And I think even you will agree that the TomTom speed cameras are not worth shouting from the rooftops about. _________________ Dennis
I've got the updates too, but that's no comfort to the MAJORITY who it seems haven't got all or any of them so far, or the unfortunates who have had their units COMPLETELY BRICKED by the map update or lost LIVE Services after it
I would like to know where you get your data from the confirm as you do that the majority haven't got the updates? That is quite a statement from a PGPSW moderator, and I hope you can back it up
Just relying on forum posts to qualify this is useless - lets me honest, we don't go searching out and then posting on forums just to say "everythings fine" - most people when something works (as it should) say and post nothing
Only the (few?) people with genuine problems then carry on a post... and if you take off all those miserable complainers on here to knock the 1000/5 series but either / or don't have one / never tried one and maybe its not anywhere near your claimed majority after all
As to when I purchased my unit, it was October 2010
It puts my Garmin 2310 and 765T to shame - even before the updates and custom pois
I would suppose that i fit into the class of miserable complainers... I don't have a TT1000/5 unit however i'm not on here to knock it, as i'm keen to buy the flagship TT model, but i'd never spend money on a new product that was not fully functional and not knowing when the fixes were going in.
You bought your unit in October'10 and its took 5 months to get your 3rd party POIs to work. Now that might be OK for you, but not me.
The title of this thread is "Tomtom profits slump by a third" perhaps if TT had delivered a flagship unit that was fit for purpose in the first place, then more buyers would have increased their sales, after all it was in someways intended for the Xmas market.
As for not posting when things work,..... this a forum, where you look for help from other users, who have had the same problems your having with your unit, who can help others...i would like to think that the users who don't have problems would post anyway.. 1. to say theirs worked OK, (just like you do) 2. to help users with guidance and advice.. "i did it this way" or " i cleared the cache" etc etc
Just to add that on the day that the POIs started i posted in a thread "TT1000 here i come"... but it's still not right _________________ Keith
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Joined: Feb 07, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Cambridge UK
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject:
JaguarV12e wrote:
Well count my Go 1005 (purchased about 10 december as one not updated.
I have also been waiting 52 days for Tomtom to dispatch a Go 1000 mount (with no explanation or applogy. I think that their profits should be down more in the next quarter.
OK, Software update arrived this morning.
Now just waiting for the mount to be dispatched. _________________ Tomtom Go 1005
Tomtom Go 730T
Joined: 15/07/2003 22:59:27 Posts: 1050 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject:
You get good service, you tell 1 person
You get bad service, you tell 10
Its the same story with the forums (not just these ones, of course)
I am not saying no one with good reports will post, and by the same measure not everyone with bad reports post
Just that users with a poor experience are significantly more likely to report the problem than those with a good one, most of whom will just be happy using their units day to day
And its not that those with a poor experience or problem shoudn't, just that the extent of the problem needs to be taken in context
As for the TT Speed Cameras, in my opnion up to last weeks update they were not the best, post last weeks update they are really suprisingly good and certainly do the job for me, particularly when I don't have to think about their installation - its all done for me
Now that's good service, with a _________________ TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
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Whilst we all know and accept it is far from the finished item, to a lot of users who actually use it, it is still a top item. I can't help thinking that the big issue on here is the fact that it couldn't have the camera database on it, now it can perhaps this drivel will cease.
Joined: Feb 07, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Cambridge UK
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject:
LesP2008 wrote:
Whilst we all know and accept it is far from the finished item, to a lot of users who actually use it, it is still a top item. I can't help thinking that the big issue on here is the fact that it couldn't have the camera database on it, now it can perhaps this drivel will cease.
I think I can recognise drivel when I see it.
So, some facts...
I have a Go 1005.
I do not have the 865 maps.
My 90 day LMG expires in 8 days.
My accessory mount has not been shipped 53 days after Tomotom received payment. _________________ Tomtom Go 1005
Tomtom Go 730T
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