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Darren
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 Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Accuracy of PGPSW Camera database? |
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| modelman093 wrote: | | I know that this is verging on heresy but how accurate is the PGPS camera database? |
Heresy? Not at all, one of the 'features' of our service is we are open and honest about it, and happy to be so.
| Quote: | | The reason that I ask this is that there is a mobile camera alert on the A28 just to the west of Tenterden, Kent, a section of road that my work colleagues and I traverse six to eight times a day and have never seen a camera van. |
You're not the first to make such an observation and you won't be the last, but you will be wrong.
As other have said, these cameras don't get into the database without good reason. There was one close to me that I had never personally seen in 5+ years until last week. So it matters not how often you drive a route, they are there because they have been seen by multiple members. And if they aren't seen again within 12mths they are removed.
| Quote: | | The cynic in me says that someone is enjoying life membership by reporting a non-existent camera van! |
No-one gets a Lifetime membership for a mobile unless it meets our qualifying criteria, and they are more stringent for mobiles than any other camera type.
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spook51
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| DennisN wrote: | Well, here's what the submitter had to say about it..... | Quote: | | Submission Comments: Police sit on this bridge in unmarked car (as it is hidden behind a large gantry sign) then follow you - "most unsporting" as I told the copper who pulled me over!....Oh well, £60 down the pan but at least another mobile add! |
.....I dunno about you, but I guess I'd prefer this one to stay in the database! |
Sounds more like Vascar to me, especially if they follow you and pull you over - worth knowing where they perch though. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| spook51 wrote: | | Sounds more like Vascar to me, especially if they follow you and pull you over - worth knowing where they perch though. |
Not necessarily, they could be using a laser speed gun to pick a target first. But either way, one worth knowing about.
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spook51
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Darren wrote: | | spook51 wrote: | | Sounds more like Vascar to me, especially if they follow you and pull you over - worth knowing where they perch though. |
Not necessarily, they could be using a laser speed gun to pick a target first. But either way, one worth knowing about. |
True - but neither is 'photographic'  |
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MaFt
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Accuracy of PGPSW Camera database? |
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| modelman093 wrote: | I know that this is verging on heresy but how accurate is the PGPS camera database?
The reason that I ask this is that there is a mobile camera alert on the A28 just to the west of Tenterden, Kent, a section of road that my work colleagues and I traverse six to eight times a day and have never seen a camera van.
The cynic in me says that someone is enjoying life membership by reporting a non-existent camera van!
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Before I've even read the rest of the thread/replies, this mobile camera was submitted by one of our verifiers in March last year and has been reported as 'seen again' earlier this month.
So, it's not a common location (eg every week etc) but it is somewhere that has been used at least twice in 10 months.
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MrDJ
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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just to make things more difficult for us all, ive now spotted 5 days in a row a smart car with the camera on its roof. these have been around the brent and harrow area in nw london. i know these are mainly for bus lane/yellow lines/hash boxes etc BUT i also saw one on the M1 recently with its camera facing forward. any idea if these can be used for mobile speed traps or maybe he was just on his way home  |
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Darren
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've not seen or heard of one being used for speed enforcement purposes yet. The only ones I know of have CCTV and are used for bus lane and other traffic infringements.
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MaFt
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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i THINK the Smart car's are basically mobile CCTV eg to catch people on phones, not wearing seatbelts etc. As far as I'm aware they don't do speed checks.
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MrDJ
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Darren.
i suppose one day some bright spark will come up with the idea of using them on motorways. |
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As I live / work in the boroughs of Harrow and Brent, unfortunately for my work/life balance. I was informed these Smart cars are to enforce the road/traffic offences taken out of remit of police and now enforceable by local authorities.
I don't for one minute think this is a hard or fast rule.
And, strange as it may seem, I have never seen one!!
But they may well have seen me - 
Cheers, Bob
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Kar98
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | Yes. I'm still wearing my Santa hat.
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Must be a Yorkshireman thing.  Time to burn it? |
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MaFt
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Kar98 wrote: | | MaFt wrote: | Yes. I'm still wearing my Santa hat.
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Must be a Yorkshireman thing. Time to burn it? |
Congratulations! I was seeing how long before someone noticed it was still on. Your prize is an extra month added to your Lifetime Subscription
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | | Your prize is an extra month added to your Lifetime Subscription :wink:MaFt |
I think that's too generous  |
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Kar98
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | | Kar98 wrote: | | MaFt wrote: | Yes. I'm still wearing my Santa hat.
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Must be a Yorkshireman thing. Time to burn it? |
Congratulations! I was seeing how long before someone noticed it was still on. Your prize is an extra month added to your Lifetime Subscription
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Sweet! |
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