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colossus
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Switch from Garmin to TT? Reply with quote

My Garmin 760 seems to have problems that are not fixable and I am therefore in the market for a new satnav. I have been happy with the 760 but as it is not that old and already on it's way out I am considering TT. I borrowed a friend's TT One xl and found that I liked the spoken instructions and the info at the bottom of the screen. The voice is much better than Garmin and the instructions very clear and timely. However, I noticed a lot of map errors within just a couple of miles of home. Mostly just roundabouts that have been replaced with lights and that sort of thing but one major error where a main route through Gateshead over the Tyne Bridge into Newcastle was wrong. This route was changed over 5 years ago and my Garmin had the correction within weeks. I assumed my friends unit was very old and she had not updated the maps but it turned out she bought it last November and regularly updates it. All of the errors I found are at least 5 years old and are within 2 miles of home. Is this a problem elsewhere? Also this model is much more difficult to see with glare than the 760. Are there models that are better from that point of view?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Switch from Garmin to TT? Reply with quote

colossus wrote:
my Garmin had the correction within weeks.

Can't say I've noticed Tele Atlas map data to be particularly worse than Navteq.

There are errors, some long standing but I can point to similar ones on Navteq map data.

How did you get the update you refer to on the Garmin, new map?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there is a vast difference in map data between Tele Atlas and Navteq in the UK.

I've noticed Tele Atlas often map newer estates quicker than Navteq, though I think they often use planning data and the eventual shape of a new road is sometimes slightly different, and they don't update the data to the correct shape that quickly.

I think IQ routes and HD traffic would likely swing me towards TT for my next device rather than any map data issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just updated from the website I think. Was a long time ago so can't quite remember. Maybe there are errors on navtec as well but haven't come across many and certainly not such a major error as the one to which I referred. I am surprised that with the map share feature this hasn't been corrected. I'll try to borrow the tt again as I was impressed by certain aspects of it. However, I suspect that IQ is of little use in Newcastle as I'm sure that if enough info was available from tt users things like that glaring map error would have been corrected with map share.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

colossus wrote:

..... certainly not such a major error as the one to which I referred. I am surprised that with the map share feature this hasn't been corrected. I'll try to borrow the tt again as I was impressed by certain aspects of it. However, I suspect that IQ is of little use in Newcastle as I'm sure that if enough info was available from tt users things like that glaring map error would have been corrected with map share.


I'm afraid you may have been listening to the marketing hype about MapShare.

All that MapShare can do is make minor changes to the existing mapping (like changing one-way streets, speed limits, road names etc,)

It *cannot* add or take away roads on your map, all you can do is report those changes, in the hope they will be included in the next map you buy. This isn't very often the case unfortunately.

MapShare is a brilliant concept, let down by poor collaboration between TT and TeleAtlas (also owned by TT now, so it SHOULD be easier)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andy. I think it's going to have to be Garmin again. I did discover a map error on my current 760 today but the errors on tt were correct on it. I suppose it's probably 6 and two 3s between them.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that Garmin has much more up to date maps that TT.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darrengsaw wrote:
I think IQ routes and HD traffic would likely swing me towards TT for my next device rather than any map data issues.


I quite agree. Maps will always be out of date or inaccurate, but most of the time these things don't matter. What does matter is the traffic, and the quality of routing. TT have these good at the moment.
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