8450 shipping soon?

jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: 8450 shipping soon?

Just noticed this morning that the Navigon website has been given a totally new look.
Loads more information is available for the 8410 and 8450, which makes me wonder if the 8450's will also start to ship soon.
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

Just noticed on the German site it shows "Verfügbar ab: Montag, 26. Oktober 2009"

So guess they will start shipping on the Navigon German site next Monday and hopefully the International site / UK site would follow soon after.

I may just place my order with Dabs or Amazon though... unless they realise that the price is wrong and change it.

Good news about the Real City 3D view

"The following cities will gradually be made available: Marseille, Milan, Amsterdam, Turin, Düsseldorf, Barcelona, Helsinki, Cologne, Antwerp, Strasbourg, Rotterdam, Stuttgart, Seville, Valencia, Prague, Stockholm, Oslo, Liverpool, Geneva, Zurich, Dortmund, Copenhagen, Budapest, Nice, Manchester, Dublin.

You will receive all additional cities free of charge with your FreshMaps update."

So Liverpool and Manchester will be added and won't cost anything more, I do hope that even more get added.
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject:

flash demo of the 8410 can be found here http://www.nav-user.com/navigondemo/main_loader_2410_dk_431_navuser.swf
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Jonnyhifi · Occasional Visitor Joined: Aug 02, 2009 Posts: 11

Last night the Navigon site was down, and today it seems to have changed : presumably they were changing various stuff: notably it now (23rd oct) says that the 8450 will be available from Monday Nov 2nd 2009, with the "reserve it now" button still active. (at 499 euros... any advances ? Laughing Out Loud

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No manual fro it listed though. Still intrigued as to whether it has the FM transmitter or not. I would like that and could do without a TV tuner option. I mean !?!?!? It's a PND for goodness sake. If I want a TV I'll get a TV...

BigPerk · Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:17 am Post subject:

But can you fit a TV in the car for those boring traffic jam/camping site moments, just when you'd like to see the news, or whatever? Cool

Mind you, not a major priority for me either. Razz

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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:10 am Post subject:

The TV is an optional extra, it doesn't seem you will be forced into buying one.
It's odd that it's still not clear if the Unit has the FM transmitter but from experience although it works well on short journeys on longer ones you will find yourself having to retune when a local radio station starts to interupt the Navigon music / instructions.
Maybe Navigon feel they have improved the speaker in the unit itself enough to not need sound to be transmitted?

Personally I think I may still get one.

Noticed that the ADAC camping guides now seem to be available in the UK, so may not be long before the promised Michelin guides?
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BigPerk · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject:

So it's out at £400! Amazon want £518, so I won't be going THERE (and the € price isn't competitive for me either on Navigon at current rates). So when I'm ready I guess it's N's UK store. (BTW, I've come across this site - thanks to MSE - which might interest some; it monitors Amazon prices against a figure you supply and tells you when/if A reduce prices to that level)

jonandmarkuk · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject:

Dabs and BT still list them at £390.
Not looked but is the on at over £400 a reseller and not Amazon as I noticed a more expensive listing, but when I last looked Amazon themselves still had it at the same price.
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BigPerk · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:55 am Post subject:

I see from the country list that Traffic Live and Clever Parking (quite important for me) are NOT available in the UK at present. Don't know what plans they have. I will be a lot more interested in it once they are made available.
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject:

BigPerk · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that jonandmarkuk. I haven't found the 'Live' tabs you mention yet - will keep looking. Traffic seems a bit confused - the 8450 'functions' list still excludes UK, but I found it WAS included in a Q&A entry on Live services in the Support section.

I'm sure you are right about Parking, though.

I'm also slightly unsure about whether the Live Map Update reporting is available at present. I know you can submit updates through the website, but I thought the Live models were going to allow a more direct facility on the satnav (or have I got that wrong - got it from one of the recent press releases?).

I have asked Navigon to clarify. (Took me a while to find the question submission bit on their new site as well - must be getting old...)
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject:

BigPerk · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:17 am Post subject:

Found 'Live Services/Availability' - still not crystal clear there either - although UK is listed it is still greyed out on the map (which is an indication it is not available here Stop it!

). No doubt Navigon will clarify shortly.

I'm anxiously awaiting sight of the 8450 manual too!
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:07 am Post subject:

I'd not noticed that until now.
I suspect Navigon have run into last minute problems, as even the German website now suggests the 8450's aren't shipping yet and there is still no sign of the manual appearing on the net.
I do follow Navigon on Facebook and Twitter and they seem to be doing lots of work on the iPhone app, and I really hope that's not taking developers time away from getting the 8450 and LIVE services out for the PND's.

Navigon may have tried to launch too many products at the same time Sad

The 8450 really has slipped on release time as it was supposed to be out in Oct, so unless it ships today then they have missed the Oct target. Sad

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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:46 am Post subject:

Mailed Navigon about the conflicting information.
The LIVE features are the main reason I'm looking to upgrade from the 8310, if Traffic LIVE isn't available then it's a very expensive upgrade when I'd only really gain the Google Search.

The FAQ page has been updated and still shows UK, but it also now indicates that INRIX are providing the Traffic information

http://www.inrix.com/solutionsautomotive.asp
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