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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: 8450 shipping soon? |
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Just noticed this morning that the Navigon website has been given a totally new look.
Loads more information is available for the 8410 and 8450, which makes me wonder if the 8450's will also start to ship soon. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Just noticed on the German site it shows "Verfügbar ab: Montag, 26. Oktober 2009"
So guess they will start shipping on the Navigon German site next Monday and hopefully the International site / UK site would follow soon after.
I may just place my order with Dabs or Amazon though... unless they realise that the price is wrong and change it.
Good news about the Real City 3D view
"The following cities will gradually be made available: Marseille, Milan, Amsterdam, Turin, Düsseldorf, Barcelona, Helsinki, Cologne, Antwerp, Strasbourg, Rotterdam, Stuttgart, Seville, Valencia, Prague, Stockholm, Oslo, Liverpool, Geneva, Zurich, Dortmund, Copenhagen, Budapest, Nice, Manchester, Dublin.
You will receive all additional cities free of charge with your FreshMaps update."
So Liverpool and Manchester will be added and won't cost anything more, I do hope that even more get added. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Jonnyhifi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: 8450 shipping date update |
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Last night the Navigon site was down, and today it seems to have changed : presumably they were changing various stuff: notably it now (23rd oct) says that the 8450 will be available from Monday Nov 2nd 2009, with the "reserve it now" button still active. (at 499 euros... any advances ? )
No manual fro it listed though. Still intrigued as to whether it has the FM transmitter or not. I would like that and could do without a TV tuner option. I mean !?!?!? It's a PND for goodness sake. If I want a TV I'll get a TV... |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:17 am Post subject: |
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But can you fit a TV in the car for those boring traffic jam/camping site moments, just when you'd like to see the news, or whatever?
Mind you, not a major priority for me either. _________________ David
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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The TV is an optional extra, it doesn't seem you will be forced into buying one.
It's odd that it's still not clear if the Unit has the FM transmitter but from experience although it works well on short journeys on longer ones you will find yourself having to retune when a local radio station starts to interupt the Navigon music / instructions.
Maybe Navigon feel they have improved the speaker in the unit itself enough to not need sound to be transmitted?
Personally I think I may still get one.
Noticed that the ADAC camping guides now seem to be available in the UK, so may not be long before the promised Michelin guides? _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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So it's out at £400! Amazon want £518, so I won't be going THERE (and the € price isn't competitive for me either on Navigon at current rates). So when I'm ready I guess it's N's UK store. (BTW, I've come across this site - thanks to MSE - which might interest some; it monitors Amazon prices against a figure you supply and tells you when/if A reduce prices to that level) Quote: | http://zeezaw.co.uk/index.jsp;jsessionid=969C211D85E61BA1FBCE1647DAE4B8D3 |
And any faint hopes I had about at least some features possibly being made available on the 8310 have been rather dented, as I see that it no longer features in the product list at all. _________________ David
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dabs and BT still list them at £390.
Not looked but is the on at over £400 a reseller and not Amazon as I noticed a more expensive listing, but when I last looked Amazon themselves still had it at the same price. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I see from the country list that Traffic Live and Clever Parking (quite important for me) are NOT available in the UK at present. Don't know what plans they have. I will be a lot more interested in it once they are made available. _________________ David
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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BigPerk wrote: | I see from the country list that Traffic Live and Clever Parking (quite important for me) are NOT available in the UK at present. Don't know what plans they have. I will be a lot more interested in it once they are made available. |
I noticed that last night too and was concerned, but then the website went all upside down... no joke... they were doing maintainance and as a joke they flipped the website upside down.
This morning if you click on 'Live Services' and Availability Traffic LIVE is now shown as for the UK.
I don't think we will get the Clever Live parking soon (with realtime space information) as I suspect that data is provided by a car park company in Germany and the other 2 countries it's available in. So unless NCP or some other major car park company starts to provide the data for the UK it may not appear.
The UK will be limited to the current Parking information, just not the realtime spaces information .
I'm most interested in the Traffic LIVE and Google Search. Google Search will be so much better when on holiday than having to rely on POI's being upto date. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that jonandmarkuk. I haven't found the 'Live' tabs you mention yet - will keep looking. Traffic seems a bit confused - the 8450 'functions' list still excludes UK, but I found it WAS included in a Q&A entry on Live services in the Support section.
I'm sure you are right about Parking, though.
I'm also slightly unsure about whether the Live Map Update reporting is available at present. I know you can submit updates through the website, but I thought the Live models were going to allow a more direct facility on the satnav (or have I got that wrong - got it from one of the recent press releases?).
I have asked Navigon to clarify. (Took me a while to find the question submission bit on their new site as well - must be getting old...) _________________ David
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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BigPerk wrote: | Thanks for that jonandmarkuk. I haven't found the 'Live' tabs you mention yet - will keep looking. Traffic seems a bit confused - the 8450 'functions' list still excludes UK, but I found it WAS included in a Q&A entry on Live services in the Support section.
I'm sure you are right about Parking, though.
I'm also slightly unsure about whether the Live Map Update reporting is available at present. I know you can submit updates through the website, but I thought the Live models were going to allow a more direct facility on the satnav (or have I got that wrong - got it from one of the recent press releases?).
I have asked Navigon to clarify. (Took me a while to find the question submission bit on their new site as well - must be getting old...) |
Seems Navigon are still playing with the site at the moment. I have seen Travel guides appear and disappear on the German site and ADAC camping guides are shown on some of the UK pages.
As for the Live Map update the way I understand it will work is people will be able to submit a change from the device (without having to link up to a PC) and Navteq will verify the change (possibly) then that update will be made available to users via the LIVE service so in the background new roads / POI's will get added to the map without having to do a full 2Gb download of a map?
That's the way I understand it... I'm still keeping a close eye on the site for the 8450 manual to be published as that will hopefully clear up any questions. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Found 'Live Services/Availability' - still not crystal clear there either - although UK is listed it is still greyed out on the map (which is an indication it is not available here ). No doubt Navigon will clarify shortly.
I'm anxiously awaiting sight of the 8450 manual too! _________________ David
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I'd not noticed that until now.
I suspect Navigon have run into last minute problems, as even the German website now suggests the 8450's aren't shipping yet and there is still no sign of the manual appearing on the net.
I do follow Navigon on Facebook and Twitter and they seem to be doing lots of work on the iPhone app, and I really hope that's not taking developers time away from getting the 8450 and LIVE services out for the PND's.
Navigon may have tried to launch too many products at the same time The 8450 really has slipped on release time as it was supposed to be out in Oct, so unless it ships today then they have missed the Oct target. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Mailed Navigon about the conflicting information.
The LIVE features are the main reason I'm looking to upgrade from the 8310, if Traffic LIVE isn't available then it's a very expensive upgrade when I'd only really gain the Google Search.
The FAQ page has been updated and still shows UK, but it also now indicates that INRIX are providing the Traffic information
http://www.inrix.com/solutionsautomotive.asp _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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