New models launched

jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: New models launched

I'm sure this will make it onto the main News page of PGPSW.
Navigon have announced the new models, 3 more than the initially talked about 8410.

Similar to the 8410 there is a smaller 6310, then smaller still 2400 and 1400 models.
The 2400 and 1400 models are designed with car to foot in mind and when parking up it will switch to pedestrian mode to guide you the rest of the way and automatically save the location of the car to guide you back again.
Pedestrian mode appears to be in Landscape.

In addition to the already talked about 8410 they have a 8450 and 6350 which are both 'LIVE' devices.
Similar to TomTom these have a built in Sim card in order to get traffic information, Weather, Google search functions, Mobile speed camera updates, and for some countries in europe real time parking space information.
The live features will be a subscription, and the subscription will be valid throughout Europe (to be honest I would have found the Google search a godsend in Geneva as although I didn't have the car we used the 8310 for walking but no supermarkets were in the POI's. So to have had access to Google would have really helped).

The units all get launched officially at IFA today so not sure if there will be more information later today or if what is on the website is the full information.

http://www.navigon.com/site/int/en/ifa09#highlights
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BigPerk · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject:

Hmmm ... I hope the goose is big enough to keep laying all these golden eggs so quickly. They must have spent an awful lot of effort producing the 8310 and 8110/upgrade and others, so recently, yet its IFA product list seems to have only the 7310 left from the (not so 'old') guard models (presumably not for long!).

I can't see much prospect for any of the latest facilities being retro-offered for 'older' models now, though admittedly most of them are probably too hardware dependent anyway.

I think if I'd spent out on an 8310 a couple of months ago, I could be feeling pretty agrieved, unless there are plans yet to be announced of course.
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject:

BigPerk · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:07 am Post subject:

I've just asked navigating.de about POI support on the new range. I quite fancy one of the new models as well (if 'she indoors' doesn't notice), but after all the aggravations we've had on POIs I don't want to lose user-POI input facilities just yet,. Even if Google seems to be stepping into the breach (does this development explain anything?), that still wouldn't necessarily give the user perspective, such as Caravan Club sites.
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:

I too would love one of the new units, and hope PoiWarner will work. But I'd be prepared to wait.
It's not clear yet if the 8410 will be classed as version 8 of software or not or if the RealView3D is just an add onto the version 7.

Google search will be a slight compromise, as as test I entered "caravan club site longleat" into Google and it found the site so assume with Navigon Live services you would be able to find it on the GPS. The main problem is you need to know if there's likely to be a club site in the area.

A couple of german video's of the 8410 and 8450's have appeared on Youtube. I'm looking forward to some english videos from PGPSW. Smile

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xtraseller · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Navigon Live

Yes it would be great to see a "dongle" for the Live services offered for existing units as I am otherwise very pleased with my 4350 Max unit

And they are offering a connector for 2 of the new units that don't come with Live as standard, so it can be added later - and presumably it is therefore only software and dongle dependent

One way or another I am sure either Navigon Live or a 6450 Max Live unit will find its way to my Dash when its released - end of October?
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michaelj2 · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 05, 2006 Posts: 157

Having just bought an 8310 in July after wating some time to take the plunge, I just knew a new model would come soon afterwards! However, I am already impatient to buy this new model! Its really getting closer to what is a perfect PND. Does anyone know if the SIM card is GPRS, Edge or 3G?

jonandmarkuk · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: new models

jonandmarkuk · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject:

still confused with the numbering of the new devices.
i.e why is the lower model a 6310 and not a 6410 ?.
Someone has managed to get hold of a 8410 and seemed to indicate the software is 7.5.0 which makes me wonder if the basic software is the same and if some of the new features could be offered on the older models.

The LIVE adaptor seems to be a small box which fits on the unit, assuming that just connects to the USB socket maybe that too can be added?

Just wishful thinking maybe Wink

I was hoping Navigon were going to use IFA to confirm Michelin guide data would be released for more countries other than France.
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BigPerk · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject:

Just on the offchance, I have asked Navigon today if they have any upgrade plans for us. I also asked if there was any prospect of linking the TV capability to a rear-view camera (quite fancy that!).

I wish our EU partners well of course Sad

, but at €499 for the 8450, I'm looking to a bit of a downturn in their economies later in the year Laughing

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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:

The 8410 manual is online now.

Having read through it I have noticed a couple of things;

Not clear quite how much further the Voice command functions go over the current 8310 version.

RealView3D is only updated free for the 1st 12 months (seems it's not part of the map updates).

It has a 'tracks' feature where you can record your own trips (off road) i.e. walking routes / cycle routes.
More interesting is the fact you can import Google Earth KML format files so if you are able to find walking routes in the format it can be used for more offroad navigation.

Having looked at the manual, I'm not 100% certain if I will switch just yet or wait until my current map updates run out / see what add on's get offered for the 8310
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BigPerk · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:48 am Post subject:

I've had a couple of replies to my queries. From POI-Warner

BigPerk · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject:

Looking through the new manual, I noticed a 'Search Nearby' option for a location in the Destination Search mode map, which I thought was a new option. I quite like to be able to pre-check POIs at my destination sometimes without typing in a full address from scratch, but hadn't realised there was this option on the 8310 as well (6.6.5).

However, when I try the screen with this option shown, it's greyed out and can't be selected. I had a GPS fix and was in Navigation mode before switching to the Destination screen and clicking on the green arrow when the destination was under the cross hairs. Anyone know when this option IS made available, please?
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jonandmarkuk · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject:

Jammy1 · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 63

Hi

I currently have a TomTom 540 Live but I really like the look of the Navigon 8450 Live.

Does anyone know how the traffic systems differ between these two firms? Which is better? Pros and cons?

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