New Map Info?

mikewall · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: New Map Info?

Morning peeps, I'm going to buy a new map soon, probibly western and central europe! When i do, does this then extend my map share by a year? and do i get a lmg? or is rhat just on a new unit? When i select remove map from unit, does it save the old map on my laptop? Home asked me if i wanted to keep a sound file was hoping it would do the same for a map!

Ta peeps.

Oldboy · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:19 am Post subject:

MapShare is 1 year from the purchase of the new map. LMG is for newly purchased Units, not Maps.

I wouldn't rely on HOME to Backup your Map correctly, but use the Explorer Method. After that you can safely remove the Map.
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DennisN · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:

I have just (today) developed a new theory about Mapshare longevity.

I think the 1 year free Mapshare was hype and that it'll continue free for ever - how else will TT ever get free map correction submissions from you and "millions of users worldwide"?

Mapshare was introduced with the x20 range over a year ago and have you heard anybody bleating that Mapshare has demanded subscription?
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Daggers · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:

LesP2008 · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

I think you are right Daggers. If TomTom kept on supporting old maps then what incentive is there for old map holders to update to newer ones.
It will be a case of "you want up to date maps, then pay for up to date maps"
Although the mapshare updates are dependent on us users i can't see everybody stopping submitting to the cause. If we did then they wouldn't have anything to charge for.

DennisN · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:

DennisN · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:

Daggers · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject:

IanS100 · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject:

If TomTom discontinue free MapShare downloads that doesn't necessarily mean they'll stop grabbing user corrections when connected via Home, or am I being cynical

DennisN · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject:

Like I said already, I don't think they'll ever do away with Mapshare - giving you free downloads of insignificant changes does them no harm, indeed allows them to advertise something wonderful for you (how many people are fooled into thinking Mapshare is updating maps?) and the quid pro quo is they get corrections submitted by you. The easy instant stuff is cosmetic from their point of view, the really useful stuff is when you tell them there's a new road, roundabout etc, etc - they get free notification by you and millions of other amateur observers of something important to check and correct. If they get large numbers of reports of a new road, they can draw two conclusions - 1, there's probably a new road there, so send the map surveyor out to grab it; 2, a lot of people use that area/road, so it's worth dealing with quicker than my new estate roads.

Those Mapshare (and all other) downloads/uploads are under your control - you first need to click to update your GO, then you need to click to accept them. Right now, I click to update, but uncheck (or cancel) everything except a new Application update, the only reason I still connect to Home.

So TT can't sneakily get my corrections without my agreement, just as I have unchecked the permission to upload statistics of journey usage.
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Daggers · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject:

Isn't this just cutting off your nose to spite your face? If TomTom/TeleAtlas do find out the information through uploaded MapShare corrections, then there is at least a chance that they will ensure that these corrections get incorporated in a future version of a map.

If nobody tells them, then they can't do anything about it until the next routine survey van happens to pass that location.

Likewise with IQ Routing - it becomes more useful as more user information is made available to TomTom.

If everyone had the attitude that "I'm not going to tell Tomtom anything - it's their job to work it out for themselves", then it will take longer and longer before these improvements become worthwhile. And then more people will comment that the enhancements aren't of value, and say that it's not worth submitting the data in the first place.

It's going to become a bit of a vicious circle.

mikewall · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject:

Thats when we get mapshare seems to be down yet again! Don't even get me started on all the 29/39/49 road speeds i have now! I've even tried putting 31.5 31 31.25 speeds in to see if i can get the 30 but no! They must fix this! (i wont hold my breath tho) As for mapshare for major changes, i believe since tomtom will own the mapping company is this not a rouse to make there surveying easier and cheaper! i.e if a change is reported by many users survey that area first!!! then we see the change in next new map we buy! Bit sceptical i know, could we all be that easily fooled by a pot of gold at the end of the mapshare rainbow! Oh yeah i do still submit corrections hoping for that pot Laughing Out Loud

DennisN · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject:

carl_the_cobbler · Frequent Visitor Joined: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 251

If I typed the info. correctly then it is where London Road, Bury Lane, Bath Road and High Street converge in Bristol, and yes it is still a roundabout.

Cheers

Carl

falkirk81 · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:

Just a quick update guys. I have the x40 version of navcore 8 running and can confirm that this DOES fix the 29/39/49 mph display problem. I assume its allowed to be discussed as the navcore isnt a paid for service and i AM running legal v7.20 maps.
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