Speed Cameras

xtraseller · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: Speed Cameras

The Navman speed camera database has been updated today

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Speed Cameras

xtraseller · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Support your userbase

Sorry - i believed the main reason why PocketGPSWorld is so popular with users, including myself, is that the forums are alive with independent information, by users for users, supported by paid for advertising which surround us

The Speed Camera Database was an off-shot of that communitity

So a quick note to other Navman users who subscribe (and indeed may as I do, subscribe to BOTH yours and theres) would be welcome

Obviously I this is not the case. It has turned into a forum to generate interest in the database. A commercial entity. Pitty that.

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:43 am Post subject:

We welcome news and view on devices and other matters. What we don't welcome is our forum being used as free advertising for a competitors service. If Navman wish to announce their database has been released I'm sure they are more than capable of doing so.

I can imagine Navman's response were we to ask them to announce the release of our latest database!

Commercial considerations are a fact of life, we have wages and running costs to pay and in all other aspects we are impartial, but where the safety camera database is concerned we clearly have a business to run.
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xtraseller · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: End

But we ALL don't seem to mind knocking other databases on the forum

Annoucement made. Your point made.

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: End

xtraseller · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Come on

I understand that, but surely you know Navman need all the help they can get! There communication skills are non existant. The ability to respond to customers via a forum limited. They are never going to compete against your database

Anyway, won't mention it here again

snowwolf · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 58

Perhaps this place should not be called a Forum, I was led to believe that a Forum is.

A public meeting or assembly for open discussion
A public facility to meet for open discussion

I did get an email from Navman saying about the update was ready, but I must admit I do sometimes log onto here before I check my email, to see if any upgrades or firmware upgrades have been announced

Soon as I got the email, I logged straight onto this site to check if anyone had put in any input on the upgrade
(you know what upgrades can be like sometimes)

I can see where your both coming from, but I really don't think that mentioning about a Navman upgrade will steal any revenue from the site.

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:20 am Post subject:

If you have issues with installation then feel free to discuss, it's a simple request not to advertise.
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snowwolf · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 58

I must admit, I would not even thought about it as advertising if I had not seen the topic, perhaps I am very nieve or just quite thick :-)

I have always used your camera data base and would still use it, but Navman have limited the POI's on my S90 I am 100% sure they have done this so users can't use your data base, soooooooo damn annoying.

And I bet Navman will not address this in any firmware upgrade.

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:45 am Post subject:

The issue of the POI limit is disappointing. Whether this was intentional (I doubt it) or not, I cannot believe they don't see this as an issue that requires rectification.

No other device in this bracket suffers such a limitation yet Navman either don't recognise it as the issue it is or simply no longer care. It's not hard to imagine a lack of concern given the disruption and period of uncertainty that accompanies a major take-over.
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snowwolf · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 58

I quite agree with you Darren, I have alsways used Navman and found them very good ish, in the past, I have had lots of problems with my S90 since I bought it, even after the last firmware upgrade, mine still restarts many times on a day trip, also my TMC has stopped working (another post on here) but I do like my S90 dispite all this and live in hope they finally get things sorted

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:59 am Post subject:

At risk of wandering OT, we have always enjoyed a great relationship with Navman UK although this has waned since the Mio buyout. Mio seem far less interested in maintaining relationships with community sites sadly.

Navman were once a fantastic company, receptive, and forward thinking. I personally think their last great units were the first iCN's. I suspect turmoil behind the scenes at this time lead to a lack of investment and they rested on their laurels for far too long.

It's a real shame as what we need least is to lose a major player but I've said it before, SmartST has long since passed it's sell by date and Mio's decision to favour it is short sighted. I only hope they invest heavily to re-design it from the ground up. Mio had decent hardware but I can understand that having to buy in iGO would never work long term BUT they ain't gonna grab a larger market share using SmartST in its current format and customers will be long gone if they don't sort that sharpish!
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snowwolf · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 58

Yer your right, Navman were always really helpfull when you called them, I have had and still have the Pin 100 and made it into the Pin 300, what a great bit of kit this is, I still have it in the car just in case, I liked the way you could add all the other software onto it, like Fugawi and the like, which is great when off roading in the 4x4 and on the mountain bike, you can't add any of this sort of software to the S90 :-(

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