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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: Were You Caught by These Cameras |
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Were you caught by the mobile cameras or Police laser guns on the A27 in the area between Mobile:23584 @ 40 and Mobile:7215 @40, if so read this
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pity there is not a picture of a sign in the wrong position to give a pictorial indication of the wrong and right positions, at the moment i wouldn't be able to tell if they were correct or not  |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| gardenshed wrote: | | pity there is not a picture of a sign in the wrong position to give a pictorial indication of the wrong and right positions, at the moment i wouldn't be able to tell if they were correct or not |
I read the article to say that repeater signs were also missing.
One problem that I also see on a regular basis is vegetation being allowed to grow and 'swallow up' speed limit and other road signs. I don't mean to sound old here, but I'm sure this never used to be such a problem and vegetation was kept trimmed appropriately.
If you're passing from a higher speed limit to a lower speed limit, but the sign is covered by vegetation and not clearly visible, does the lower speed limit still stand? After all, there isn't clear notification that the speed limit has changed 
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| GPS_fan wrote: | | One problem that I also see on a regular basis is vegetation being allowed to grow and 'swallow up' speed limit and other road signs. I don't mean to sound old here, but I'm sure this never used to be such a problem and vegetation was kept trimmed appropriately. |
I have friends who own a garden centre and when I visited them earlier this year I pointed out to them that their sign inside the land boundary was badly obscured by the hedges. They said they knew, but they were not allowed to cut it back at that time of year by the hedge protection or whatever people in the council!! Later on (after the gardening season??) they would be able to trim it.
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GPS_fan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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...then you would have thought that they would trim it back far enough so that the following year's growth wouldn't affect the sign(s)
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xda
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| gardenshed wrote: | | pity there is not a picture of a sign in the wrong position to give a pictorial indication of the wrong and right positions, at the moment i wouldn't be able to tell if they were correct or not |
The problem is with the slip road which allows traffic to joins the Eastern Road which is 40mph, but also continues to run parallel to it. The slip road does not have any displayed speed limit signs until it finally merges with the
Western Way after the market roundabout to the Gosport road.
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GPS_fan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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can't often get up to 40mph around there though
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| DennisN wrote: | | . . . they were not allowed to cut it back at that time of year by the hedge protection or whatever people in the council!! Later on (after the gardening season??) they would be able to trim it. |
I think you'll find it's after the nesting season, Dennis, otherwise they might destroy nests or disturb breeding birds, and that's aginst the law.
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xda
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
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The area that is in question is between the left and right hand cameras.
Sorry about the quality was taken from the TV with my mobile
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| GPS_fan wrote: | | can't often get up to 40mph around there though |
I must have managed it, was a hand held laser, now been quashed and the fine refunded. Clean licence again. 
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xda
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| GPS_fan wrote: |
If you're passing from a higher speed limit to a lower speed limit, but the sign is covered by vegetation and not clearly visible, does the lower speed limit still stand? After all, there isn't clear notification that the speed limit has changed |
That is also part of the problem between the two camera locations East and West there is also 3 30mph sections which are not clear or marked correctly.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| xda wrote: | | GPS_fan wrote: | | can't often get up to 40mph around there though |
I must have managed it, was a hand held laser, now been quashed and the fine refunded. Clean licence again. |
Are you the guy who was clocked at 70mph?
Edit: Here's a TV report
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Even if you know the area, it's difficult to keep track of the 40 - 30 - 40 - 30 etc
This is then exacerbated by the fact that much of this stretch is dual carriageway.
I prefer using M27 J9-11/12, which is often quicker because you miss the traffic lights, roundabouts and lower speed limits
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| TheBrit wrote: | | Are you the guy who was clocked at 70mph? |
No, although the car can do almost 3 times that, I was done for doing 38 in what they said was a 30 zone but there was no 30 sign indicating it the last sign passed was a 40mph.
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| xda wrote: | | TheBrit wrote: | | Are you the guy who was clocked at 70mph? |
No, although the car can do almost 3 times that, I was done for doing 38 in what they said was a 30 zone but there was no 30 sign indicating it the last sign passed was a 40mph. |
So if I'm driving through Park Gate and see a Ferrari then is that you? 
Hampshire CC have had thier wrists well and truly slapped over signage now so hopefully they will sort it out.
The dreaded scamera van has been persecuting the good people of Waltham Chase lately. I was taken for £60 for doing 39 early on a SUNDAY MORNING.
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