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silverheels
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: New map version 675 - French Roads Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the latest TOMTOM map has been updated for France.
In partic. does it show the "new" A75.
I do not want to buy the new version if it does not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My v675 map shows the A75 starting at J59 Pezenas Nord.

And the Millau viaduct is there too.

[edit] Just realised. These comments refer to the 1.7GB Western & Central Europe map. They do not refer to the smaller, cut down, 1GB Western Europe map
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:D Many thanks sgould.
...."My v675 map shows the A75 starting at J59 Pezenas Nord."

That is reassuring, and despite the related adverse posts on TT maps, Evil or Very Mad I think I might purchase it, after all
Before I do:
Does it go all the way (continuously) to Clermont-Ferrand, J1, linking to the A71?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does it go all the way (continuously) to Clermont-Ferrand, J1, linking to the A71?



I have the France v6.75 map, and yes, all this is on the map.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks Jimbo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But DO NOT get the 675 Western Europe map.
Get either the France map or Western_and_Central_Europe map.

As sgould says the WE map has been severely trimmed, mainly of lots of smaller roads.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:D Cheers everyone.
Taken your advice and I have now "got" WE & CE.
And it was good to see that some corrections have been made to some street names in S. France, as well as including the A75.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgould wrote:
My v675 map shows the A75 starting at J59 Pezenas Nord.

And the Millau viaduct is there too.

[edit] Just realised. These comments refer to the 1.7GB Western & Central Europe map. They do not refer to the smaller, cut down, 1GB Western Europe map


I have rescently purchased the TT1 XL EUROPE (WE). I find the A75 as you described and as an avid French traveller have found nothing as you describe missing. Are you refering to those models that use a memory card?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just returned from a 2000 mile round trip from Merseyside to South West France (Monsegur) using my TT 910 with V6.75 maps. (I got a free upgarde after purchasing from Currys with old Maps and contacting TT complaining)

The maps seemed to be ok but what did go wrong was the positioning.

At one point we were on the A10 and the maps clearly showed it but then the directional arrow started to move to the right or the left and at one point put us at travelling in a field. It would then recalculate the route which took about 30 seconds and when you are about to make a turning off a motorway onto another road this is a considerable concern. luckily we kept calm and at the last second it always seemed to come back on.

Also some other problems with speed not being shown accuratly (speedo showing 80mph (130km) TT 910 displaying mad speeds like 20 mph)

At another point with less than 5km to go the unit kept recalculating the route and we had to get paper maps out. the unit had been on for about 11 hours by now, but that really shouldn't make any difference.

There were 1 or 2 issues with roundabouts not being displayed which did cause some confusion but overall they seemed to be pretty accurate.

I had a Bluemedia unit 2 yeas ago using Navigon Maps and whilst on a similar trip to France we were travelling down a road at about 40mph. The unit told us to travel down the road for something like 4 miles. After about 1 mile we noticed this large grave yard to the right with lots of ornimental grave stones. In my error I turned my head for a second and then heard my wife scream stop. I automatically slammed on the brakes and stopped about 10foot away from this wall which had been built in the middle of the road (actually it wasn't the middle of the road it was the end but no signage). The wall looked about 100 years old and behind the wall were fields but the satnav was still telling me to go forward on the road that wasn't there.!!! At least nothing similar happened this time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebootuk wrote:
sgould wrote:
My v675 map shows the A75 starting at J59 Pezenas Nord.

And the Millau viaduct is there too.

[edit] Just realised. These comments refer to the 1.7GB Western & Central Europe map. They do not refer to the smaller, cut down, 1GB Western Europe map


I have rescently purchased the TT1 XL EUROPE (WE). I find the A75 as you described and as an avid French traveller have found nothing as you describe missing. Are you refering to those models that use a memory card?

KK


I think the two maps are probably the same for main roads. People have posted the differences. The WE map seems to omit some details in towns and villages that appear on the W&CE map.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys, perhaps this might help. It appears that on board memory will have MORE detail than those that use the SD CARDS. Here is the response I recieved when I put it to TomTom themselves.

I WROTE:
I have reading a forum regarding the maps on the TomTom One. Here is some of the forum.

"But DO NOT get the 675 Western Europe map.
Get either the France map or Western_and_Central_Europe map.
As sgould says the WE map has been severely trimmed, mainly of lots of smaller roads"

"I think the two maps are probably the same for main roads. People have posted the differences. The WE map seems to omit some details in towns and villages that appear on the W&CE map"

Is any of this true? And if so why? Wouldn't this be unfair? Would you really short change people in this way? I just bought my XL Europe and am not to keen on the prospects of not having all the data that others have.

THEY SAID:
Dear Mr Kelly,

Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Support.
There are obvious differences between the MOWE and the MOW&CE with regards to coverage. Addidtionally, the MOW&CE is designed for devices with internal memoery which obviously have larger memory capacity than devices that use only the SD card.
The compression of MOWE to fit such devices with much limited memory may have resulted in some minor details being left out.


With Best Regards

The TomTom Customer Support Team


Hope this solves something?????
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebootuk wrote:
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The compression of MOWE to fit such devices with much limited memory may have resulted in some minor details being left out.
...
The TomTom Customer Support Team
..

I think most of us knew this for some time already. Its progress to actually see them admit it.
Their point about internal memory is a bit of a porky though. The bigger, more detailed map easily fits on a SD card if you get one big enough (2GB min).
The WE only map does "short change" users.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gradixon wrote:
.... this wall which had been built in the middle of the road (actually it wasn't the middle of the road it was the end but no signage). The wall looked about 100 years old .....

I could show something similar in France on the current map.
Unmade road TT sends you up near to my usual final destination is cut by a stream full of rocks. According to locals its always been like that.
You could get across it with a 4x4 but then you'd have to drive through garden owned by a French lawyer. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re rebbotuk and vromfondel's various comments above.

This may be of interest...

I am in the middle of a very lengthy and detailed dispute with TT (whose full detailed exchanges may be posted sometime) during which, having been told various things about the differences between WE and W&CE maps I now have in writing that the differences in detail are only landscape details (like the occasional lake) that will not affect any street-level navigation.

I am still in dispute over the fact they allege I have activated my WE map when my TT device clearly says it is not activated, and I continue to press for a refund for my unactivated WE map as it was sold under false pretences.

If ANYONE can provide me with unequivocal screenshots of the latest versions of both maps that show ANY street level detail differences, I will be very grateful (as may be my local trading standards people when this eventually hits their desk as it certainly will when I decide that TT are no longer worth talking to - nearly there, but not quite yet)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

george57l wrote:
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If ANYONE can provide me with unequivocal screenshots of the latest versions of both maps that show ANY street level detail differences, I will be very grateful....

Several examples were given some time ago in the very long thread about the V675 map errors.
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