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Joined: Feb 07, 2006 Posts: 616 Location: Midlothian
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject:
TomDavison wrote:
I take them very seriously. I just can't get my head around the difference between the satnav telling me a camera is coming up, and her indoors sat next to me doing the same from a road atlas.
If you are lucky, they may confiscate your device (the map) and its reader (her indoors). _________________ Tommo...
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 384 Location: Bedford, England
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:27 am Post subject:
What we need though is a document from the embassy, in french, that we can carry with us. And it needs some sort of official heading, rather than a plain page that anyone could have printed, if the gendarme is to be convinced.
Hi
It's because I 'm french that I can anwer you about your questions.
The french law banning devices which can detects speed cameras but not devices which alert about speed cameras positions.
So GPS with database is allowed (but for how long time yet ?...) but it's totally forbiden to have devices which can detect by emission of laser waves, radio frequencies wavese, etc...
So a passive devices as GPS are oK :P but all active devices are illegal.
You can pay a very big fine and you have to pay at the moment, you risk to have your car confiscated definitevly.
Don't forget that the cobs are more clever than us because the law is with us...
Excuse my bad english but I think my text 's understandable
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject:
yo612, your English is very good.
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The french law banning devices which can detects speed cameras but not devices which alert about speed cameras positions.
My French friend, Christophe, has told me it is 'forbid' in France to use any device which indicates the position of a speed camera. GPS is a device which with the added speed camera database, indicates the position of a camera and I would take this to mean it is illegal to have the camera database installed. This is why it is all so confusing.
Paper maps are OK because they are not a device, so can show camera positions.
What adds to the confusion is, viaMichelin have a database download available for their mapping.
To be certain of not contravening French law I think it best we all stick to their speed limits there's no chance of getting fined or having our Sat Navs confiscated, whether that's legal or not. I for one wouldn't argue with one of their Gendarmes, I don't think I'd win. If one says to me 'Saut'. I say 'Comment haut'? Dixon of Dock Green they are not. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar.
With all due respect, lost property, taking it all on balance I think I'll take my chances and believe the word of the French Embassy and the French highway code over your mysterious friend Christophe! ;) ;)
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:24 am Post subject:
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With all due respect, lost property, taking it all on balance I think I'll take my chances and believe the word of the French Embassy and the French highway code over your mysterious friend Christophe!
My mysterious friend, French born and bred, actually made enquiries for me but if he was told wrong, or regulations have changed since he made the enquiries, no matter, I shall keep the cameras off and stick within the speed limits. But remember, people may have the camera database and it may well be legal there but it won't show the position of the random speed checks by the Gendarmie, as, when and where they feel like it, so having the camera database could give a false sense of security.
Personally I can't really see the need to speed in France, the roads are good, quiet most of the time and you can easily do the equivalent distance London to Plymouth in 3 hours in a nice relaxed way.
But everyone has to make their own choice as to whether they feel the camera database would be to their advantage or not. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar.
Joined: Feb 07, 2006 Posts: 616 Location: Midlothian
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:
Lost_Property wrote:
Personally I can't really see the need to speed in France, the roads are good, quiet most of the time and you can easily do the equivalent distance London to Plymouth in 3 hours in a nice relaxed way.
But everyone has to make their own choice as to whether they feel the camera database would be to their advantage or not.
I forgot to put in what I was going so say.....
I agree that there is no need to speed in France, but then there is no need to speed anywhere really. Just get up earlier.
I use the French camera database as I do in the UK, as an added security, not to allow me to speed, but to warn me if I creep over. Some of the French scenery is superb and you can't help looking. Try driving across the Millau bridge is south east France without looking out your side windows. _________________ Tommo...
Regularly absent, but still here in spirit !
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Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:
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I agree that there is no need to speed in France, but then there is no need to speed anywhere really. Just get up earlier.
Exactly. The difference between doing 70 and 80 on an average journey makes just a few minutes difference. Even worse is the rolling road blocks on a two lane dual-carriageway, when one lorry, travelling at about 53 mph is being overtaken by another doing 55. Aaaagghh!!!
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I use the French camera database as I do in the UK, as an added security, not to allow me to speed, but to warn me if I creep over. Some of the French scenery is superb and you can't help looking. Try driving across the Millau bridge is south west France without looking out your side windows.
I haven't been down that far since about 1998 but it's on my list of things I must do. It's amazing just ;ooking at the pictures on Google. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar.
Hoping they don't confiscate the device of navman N20, N40, N60i which is already got the safety camera software in the unit.
I feel this a bit silly for confiscate the device and may think the the french or germany police keep the device to them self to getaway with it while they off duty to use it their own car on the road.
It time to call up the MP to stop this silly law in aboard police's of confiscate the device to keep it them self to getaway with it.
Also without the device gps satnav, how on earth the peoples going to get there or back home of getting lose without a gps satnav then.
This is wrong to confiscate the device gps satnav of thief of laughing at the Bristain peoples.
It time the "PAYBACK" to return the device gps satnav returning it back to the owner.
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