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Holux GM-210 + Seidio Car Mount Experiment Help Request

 
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OhBuggerit2k2
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Holux GM-210 + Seidio Car Mount Experiment Help Request Reply with quote

I have the Seidio G2500 car mount with an HP4700. I used to use a BT GPS but as is well reported the lag on Navigon used to get me going, especially in London. After much trying to get assistance from Navigon one of the German forums had a post from a guy using a wired mouse who said although he had lag it was typically around 0.25 sec (how he could count that I don't know).

So, I have a Holux GM-210, obviously I need a RJ11 fitting on it. OK I organise a Seidio adapter cable (but everyone is out of stock so I go on back order), but I start thinking (a dangerous thing) what if I cut my Holux PS/2 adapter off and fitted an RJ11 adapter on......I don't need a connector AND I get to shorten the length of the mouse cable so it looks tidier on the windscreen.

Then the query arises, where do I put the wires in the RJ11, and who would know?

I doubt Holux would be too keen on me cutting up their equipment so I am a little reluctant to ask them and I cannot find a wiring diagram on their site. I emailed Seidio and then phoned a techhie in the US, same again, does not want to tell me because they lose a sale. soooooooo

Has anyone here got the GM-210/Siedio link cable - if so could you tell me the pin colour order of the wiring?

OR

Has anyone done this already or does anyone already know what the wiring scheme is?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi OhBuggerit2k2

I've just done a quick search from yahoo and found this I don't know if this helps, its supposed to be for the GM-210
Pin out colours
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi OhBuggerit2k2

I couldn't edit my previous post, here is a link for the RJ11 plug, but as this page says "not responsible for any damage caused by installation of the “Do It Yourself?cable."
Seidio adaptor cable
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, but the colours are different. I decided to chop the cable and I have:

Red
Green
Blue
White
Yellow
Black

So I am guessing that the schematic is correct, but they have changed their wiring. Now I just have to figure out how these fit the wiring on the Seidio.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I had just found that one myself. Problem is it shows 4 cables not 6, therefore 2 must be redundant.

Guess the next step is to open the 210 and have a look at where they are soldered and see if 2 are redundant or crossed or something.

What fun :D :D
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this pdf file, GM 210 receiver manual it shows you the ps 2 plug with descriptions of connections not wire colours but this should help.
GM 210 manual pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if the diagram shown is correct 5 are used and one is not RX(TTL).

Ok we are getting closer. All I need to do is to match Holux colours to Seidio.

Maybe it was easier to just wait for the Holux/Seidio Cable, but I am at least having some fun. Laughing

I am going to take the Seidio Unit apart and see if the wiring iin that gives any clues. But not till tomorrow. Too much excitement for one day.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I see this your GM 210 has the same number of wires as my GR 211 (6) but only 4 are used as the IPAQ's use the rs232 serial connection. So only pins 1, 2, 4 & 6 (GM 210) are used
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that.

So if we assume Red = +5VDC & Black = Ground

What do "guess" 1 & 6 to be?

I have yellow, blue, white and green left Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way to identify what colour cable is which is to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to test which colour wire is conected to which pin in the plug that you have cut off
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon - You have my immense thanks for your help. Sorted.

Ground = White
RX = Yellow
TX = Green
VCC = Red

Got an RJ11 and Crimper from Maplins. Set it up, and it came into life straight away.

It's currently wired into the Seidio Mount with my HP 4700 and Navigon running in the middle of my lounge showing 6 satellites through a Velux window. :D :D :D :D :D :D

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad you are now sorted and have a very tidy solution for connecting everything together.
I assume this hasn’t cost as much as an adaptor cable
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 x Crimper 6.99
1 x Connector 0.49

So probably 1.50 more, but I get a cable the exact length I want without a long length that I have to try and hide.
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