Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

SatNavNews · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 29, 2005 Posts: 13

If the decision is still to charge for the database, I for one will be leaving the site. Pocket GPS have always said quite firmly that the database is FREE and will remain free and charging for it will make a mockery of that. It's not the cost that I'm complaining about, it's the principle!

How could I possibly trust you guys again ? You've committed the ultimate sin. What you are doing is essentially saying "That's a nice mobile phone, can I have a look at it" and then trying to charge me £2 to get my phone back. Sorry, that's daylight robbery.

Anyway, not long now so I guess we'll soon find out the answer, but I think we all know what it will be...

Editor,

conroyd · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 08, 2005 Posts: 33

OneTomtom · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 29, 2005 Posts: 16

I have only just brought a Tomtom One and was looking forward to being able to download a speed camera database for free. Then I read that the site was thinking of introducing a charge for this service and was disappointed. I continued to read and found that this charge would be £2 and thought I can live with that £2 a month, £24 a year not bad and I can even send them in updates to help other motorists avoid the cameras.

At the end of the day if the site needs to employ someone to make this database bigger and better then so be it, if we can help by sending in updated information then lets keep doing so. It’s not Pocket GPS World or other motorists that are the problem it’s the cameras lets just work together and help ourselves.

Think about it £24 per year to update V a £60 speeding ticket, 3 points on your licence plus increased insurance costs (best case) or worst case 3 extra points on your licence causing a ban a bigger fine, possible loss of employment because you can no longer do your job, this could be followed by the loss of your home because you have no income to pay your mortgage, £2 a download bargain!

But a warning to GPS World , don’t get greedy take only what you need to administer this data, people are helping you provide this database, does it need to be as high a £2. I also think people should be given the option to pay per down load or a discounted yearly fee.

TheBoyGroucho · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject:

Buffy Beagle · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject:

I notice that Klanden has submitted a second piece of advice.

If there is time for the mods to re-read only one email on this thread before they post their response I would suggest they read Klanden's first email which to my mind was very well thought out and should be in business management text books throughout the land!

I have absolutely no interest at all in the database in question, but I mind very much that a subject like this was introduced just before Christmas when it seems the mods have not been able to make time to respond to the points raised on the forum so allowing the discussion to develop in a helpful way.

This whole thread should be printed in business management text books throughout the land as an example of how not to do it! :0)

GGGGrrrrrr :0(

Buffy :0)

gsxr1000 · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 66

ohh great can we see your findings given by council then

maybe you would be so good as to post it somewhere for all to see and push the gpsteam into a corner and realise the errors of their ways

the data is in their possesion and it is for all purposes theirs

as the data originally is public information submitted on many police force sites and local authourity sites, etc, throughout the uk i really think you would struggle to bring litigation for reporting and claiming ownership of data about a public funded speedcam outside your house what maybe 5,000 people a week see

james_uk9 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 16, 2005 Posts: 26

gsxr1000 · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 66

probably true

which totally nagates any argument about all this hard feeling and people feeling hard done by - when they have their answer as you said - start their own and give it away for free forever

obviously we will see a lot less of the people complaining of misuse of their information around here - maybe not a bad thing looking at all the bad feeling from "devoted" members who's only interest is having it away for free and not development of something they feel so deer about

PocketGPSTeam · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

Thank you for all your comments in regards to charging for the speed camera database. We hope you had a restful Christmas - we didn't ;o)) The debate was a little noisy at times and unfortunately we found it necessary to delete several posts. These included any posts of a personal nature or blatant advertising.

As promised, we have digested your comments and have decided to implement the following model as a result of your feedback.

2 levels of site subscription; monthly (£2) and yearly (£19).

There will be Free Lifetime membership for those who have already contributed to the original speed camera database.
We have records of submissions, but will require some basic information from you to match you with our records, such as username and the email address you used to make your submission(s).

Subscribing to the site will have many has benefits. As a registered member you will receive:

In addition we hope to create additional applications that will simplify the download and installation of the database across as many GPS hardware platforms as possible and create dedicated downloads for each device type.

Proposed member forums:

With the exception of the member area forums, free access to read and post at both new and existing forums will continue. A speed camera forum will also continue for new and existing posts in the free area as usual.

In the interest of transparency, we currently have a system in place where we can easily identify copied versions of the speed camera database and, in future, all individual member downloads and batches of the speed camera database can be identified to a particular member.

We propose to charge using PayPal, credit cards and debit cards. You can also pay by cheque (we are able to accept cheques from all countries), postal order or money order (US funds). We will also be looking at other possible systems.

We are very confident that many of you will still send in cameras; in fact we are still receiving them regularly - thank you. Not only will the database survive and continue to improve (through both your effort and ours), but also the community will carry on going from strength to strength.

We remain 100% committed to the database and it will always be a very important part of what we do and we strongly believe that this area will continue to grow.

Sallet · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 11, 2004 Posts: 46

Sallet · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 11, 2004 Posts: 46

OOps, sorry, the response came during the time I was writing.

Darren · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject:

Ok all, we've posted our plans and created a seperate thread for comments in relation to that post here.

I'm going to lock this thread now.
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