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WiRED
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

strumble wrote:
One location that stands out is 40-M-5701
N51.78497 W4.97375


Can you clarify whether you think this camera should or should not be in the 4.101 download. According to the data I have on my PC, it was in the .csv file I downloaded to make the map with, and its also in the map overlay I created. What do you believe is wrong?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The overlay lists it as Mobile 5701.
The .gdb file lists it as 40-M-5701.
The zoned file lists it as 40-M-5701
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Other / UK Single file with all cameras CSV" file, which I use as the input for my conversion process lists it as MOBILE:5701...

...
-4.97375,51.78497,"MOBILE:5701@40"
...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wonder there is so much confusion with the members and the database, when the details vary from download to download!!!!!!

The overlay lists it as Mobile 5701.
The .gdb file lists it as 40-M-5701.
The zoned file lists it as 40-M-5701
The Other / UK Single file lists it as Mobile 5701
The 'half working' Google map on the submission page lists it as MOBILE:5701@40

As I updated this camera in September to 40mph, I know that the detail is correct!

I think you have been given an outdated database!
[The Other / UK Single file]
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

strumble wrote:
I think you have been given an outdated database!
[The Other / UK Single file]


I wasn't "given" the database - I downloaded it from the website on 3rd October at about 20:15pm. The release.txt file in the download says it is v4.101 and is dated 3rd October. This is all checked carefully before sending the overlay back to PGPSW. So, no, I don't believe I have got an out of date database.

If you look at the .csv file in notepad for example, all the mobile cameras are labelled MOBILE:nnnn@ss (and all the other cameras are labelled in the same style, e.g. GATSO:nnn@ss or REDLIGHT, SPECS or TEMP). They don't use the ss-M-nnnn format you describe, but that doesn't mean the data is incorrect. Its just a nomenclature issue and I could easily believe the camera names might be different according to the format actually downloaded. The basic information is the same though - at these co-ordinates is a mobile camera, number 5701 in the database, and its in a 40mph zone.

Perhaps a PGPSW database wizard could confirm that the data is accurate, but just has a different format for the camera names?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

strumble wrote:

The overlay lists it as Mobile 5701.
The .gdb file lists it as 40-M-5701.
The zoned file lists it as 40-M-5701
The Other / UK Single file lists it as Mobile 5701
The 'half working' Google map on the submission page lists it as MOBILE:5701@40


I just downloaded the overlay (to make sure that PGPSW are actually shipping what I sent them) and the overlay lists it as MOBILE:5701@40

So, I say again, it all looks ok to me Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded the overlay at 21:27 on the 6th

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PocketGPSWorld.com Speed Camera Database
Version 4.101
3 October 2006
Copyright PocketGPSWorld.com


I will send a screenshot of the resultant overlay on the PC if you PM your email address!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WiRED wrote:
The "Other / UK Single file with all cameras CSV" file, which I use as the input for my conversion process lists it as MOBILE:5701....
/WiRED


You stated MOBILE:5701..
without the speed!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Bigger dots? Reply with quote

Wired,

Thanks for the overlay, I use it on my 2610. I know there is no chace of any audio warning for cameras but is there a possibility of using bigger dots? I use my 2610 on a bike and sometimes don't catch the approaching locations. A bigger (X2 perhaps) dot would really help!

Any advice appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger dots? Reply with quote

V2RJO wrote:
Wired,

Thanks for the overlay, I use it on my 2610. I know there is no chace of any audio warning for cameras but is there a possibility of using bigger dots? I use my 2610 on a bike and sometimes don't catch the approaching locations. A bigger (X2 perhaps) dot would really help!

Any advice appreciated.

Roger.



Yes please, bigger icons/dots!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes please, bigger icons/dots!


I think the icon size is fixed by Garmin. Not something that can be changed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno if this is still an ssue but i can confirm that mobile 5701 is 40mph

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
dunno if this is still an ssue but i can confirm that mobile 5701 is 40mph

MaFt


Thank you, 'Wired' has sorted this.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulB2005 wrote:
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Yes please, bigger icons/dots!


I think the icon size is fixed by Garmin. Not something that can be changed.


I think Wired does a great job on the overlay so I am not critizing, but

WIRED uses 'Garmin Navigation Aid' Icons on the overlay.
For some reason the icons for mobile units on the iQue are small green circles with G in them, so can be confused as G for gatso.

see the screenshot for iQue:-
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/walterwright/screens.html

You will notice that other categories are white circles with W in them.

There are bigger icons within Garmin but not 'Garmin Navigation Aid' icons that perhaps could be used as an alternative.

WIRED a suggestion - not criticism :D
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I had a £ for every time I've been asked this. I'd have enough for... well a few beers anyway Wink

It's true, the icon sizes are fixed by Garmin. All I can do is choose which ones to use. I didn't want to use anything which you might expect to find while driving around - it would be quite frustrating driving to a Bank icon only to find it was a speed camera! The Navaids satisfy that criterion at least.

When I started doing this I created a map with all the icons it was possible to display on the 2610. There isn't anything much bigger that is usable. Also, not all the icons are the same on all GPS devices - just to confuse things further.

I'm open to any ideas, but I have addressed this problem before and I still think its as good as its going to get on these platforms.

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