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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My new S10 has turned up today and has updated to Android 10. Camalert is not working on this phone.








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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a Samsung S10 ?

If so it does look like I'm heading for trouble as well Sad

Unless there's an .APK available:

https://www.digitbin.com/use-older-version-apps-without-updating/

Info:

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-warn-apps-target-android-lollipop/
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Nice find but a poor relation to PGPSW actually fixing CA.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've read each Android app has to be given a range of Android versions it will work under.

When developed/deployed there is a finite range you can specify.

It could be that other phones are running Android v 10.0 which is fine but Samsung may have adapted their own v 10 which is 10.1 and that is outside of the specified range.

Just my amateur guess from Mr Google:

android {
defaultConfig {
applicationId 'com.example.myapp'

// Defines the minimum API level required to run the app.
minSdkVersion 15

// Specifies the API level used to test the app.
targetSdkVersion 28

...
}
}

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject: S10+ Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
CamerAlert works on Android 10.

MaFt


It does not even start on the Samsung S10+ with Android 10 / security patch level: 01/12/2019, lots of logs submitted and one ticket which has remained open since the 04/12/19
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kremmen wrote:
Is this a Samsung S10 ?


It is indeed, and now a phone I can't take to work with me as I use CA daily Sad

v1.4.0.876 is the current offering on Play Store and is also what is on my S8. I have produced an apk of the working app and transferred it to the S10 in the hope it may give a "kick start", but it hasn't, it still fails to load/ open.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My S10 isn't tied to any operator as I bought it outright from John Lewis so SIM free.

It's still on Android 9.

Wonder if I can leave it there or will it get a forced update at some point.

According to the phone it last checked for a software update 1st Nov and I've just turned off 'auto download over wifi' pending CA info.

Given it's directional, prompts when out of date and plays through the car system it would be a shame to lose it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine too is sim free (as I think was the OP's). I would think you can hold off updating, I used to have to instigate it on my S8. My update "sneaked in" while updating the phone out of the box. I like the look of the apk editor, but a bit worried about what it may bundle up as part of the new one it uploads as a replacement for the standard one. It's a real pain as it seems to have been left to rot on Android, whereas Apple got an upgrade recently(ish).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a security perspective that are a LOT of reasons that you should keep up to date. Not upgrading an operating system just because of a single app is ridiculous especially when there is a very good alternative. I've been using the suggested speedtrap alert app and it is so much better than cameralert and works beautifully on my Galaxy S10+ running Android 10. I certainly wouldn't go back to cameralert now even if the issue was fixed.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be a real shame to be forced away from CA but needs must if Samsung Android 10 renders CA obsolete.

Any news from the PGPSW staff regarding an update ?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kremmen wrote:
From what I've read each Android app has to be given a range of Android versions it will work under.

When developed/deployed there is a finite range you can specify.

It could be that other phones are running Android v 10.0 which is fine but Samsung may have adapted their own v 10 which is 10.1 and that is outside of the specified range.

Just my amateur guess from Mr Google:

android {
defaultConfig {
applicationId 'com.example.myapp'

// Defines the minimum API level required to run the app.
minSdkVersion 15

// Specifies the API level used to test the app.
targetSdkVersion 28

...
}
}


Minimum and target are just that. A minimum Android version that it will run on and the Target version (i.e. the SDK version that the app was created with). There is no 'Maximum' version in the manifest.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kremmen wrote:
It will be a real shame to be forced away from CA but needs must if Samsung Android 10 renders CA obsolete.

Any news from the PGPSW staff regarding an update ?


I've asked the team.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

and thanks for the manifest info. I'm not into Android development so can only go via what Google suggests.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to let you guys know, CA is not the only app to be broken by Android 10 on Samsung Galaxy phones.

My paid for alarm is broken and no longer works properly, although it does work, and I've been advised the original app will not be fixed so I need to obtain a newer version, which looks identical, and I need to pay again for no ads. Leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-news/android-next-os-update-may-spell-bad-news-for-app-developers/articleshow/65673031.cms
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