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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:16 am    Post subject: Pioneer unveils NavGate Head-Up Display Reply with quote

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I have to admit that, this year, much of the news coming out of IFA in Berlin was rather boring. But Pioneer stood head and shoulders above the rest with their uber cool NavGate HUD system.

This isn't the first time we've seen a HUD solution of course, Garmin pipped Pioneer to the post with a dash mounted system, but NavGate is a fully fledged head-up display.

Mounted to the sun visor and connected to a smartphone running CoPilot Live or iGo Primo, it projects high resolution navigation data including turn directions, POIs, road hazards etc in your line of sight.

NavGate can also display time, current speed, road speed limit, distance to destination and ETA.

NavGate will be available in October and we hope to have a review unit soon.

Source: Pioneer.eu.com

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it could be a nice bit of kit, let down by their choice of navigation software (CoPilot)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the phone navigation thing on the dashboard of the above picture is simply a sad person like me who likes to run several nav systems side by side? Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
So the phone navigation thing on the dashboard of the above picture is simply a sad person like me who likes to run several nav systems side by side? Smile


or a sad person who likes to run the one sat nav in several different places Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This at last looks like a real HUD, i.e. projects an image focused at infinity, so you don't have to refocus your eyes to see it, rather than the simple reflecting a screen off a semi-reflective patch on the windscreen which is so often incorrectly described as a HUD.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

druck wrote:
.....which is so often incorrectly described as a HUD.
As HUD is short for heads up display, if it's a display and you can see it without looking away from your normal view, then surely it is a HUD, regardless of focus?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:
druck wrote:
.....which is so often incorrectly described as a HUD.
As HUD is short for heads up display, if it's a display and you can see it without looking away from your normal view, then surely it is a HUD, regardless of focus?


Strictly speaking, if you interpret it literally, yes. However, HUDs have been in use in the aviation world for donkeys years and a lot more is implied by the term than just where the display is mounted.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same could be said for people using "a GPS app" on their smartphone. Technically speaking they are not using GPS, they are using a mixture of cell-triangulation, wifi-location technology and GPS. If they're in Russia or CHina then they could be using GLONASS or Beidou respectively. But at the end of the day, we know exactly what they mean when they say they're using "GPS".

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be a leap forward, but the scroats will see that a mile off, and relieve you of it very quickly, as it'll take a while to wrap it all up out of sight, and set it up again after a quick nip into the newsagents etc

It also looks like a prototype, what's needed is a tiny projector on top of the speedo binnacle and all the rest of the gubbins hidden away, not a display of techno ornamentation.

And the comment about running two sat navs together, the blurb says it needs a separate app running for it to work anyway as it's not standalone yet either.

God only knows how much they'll want for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could be useful for multidrop drivers in city centres as you wouldn't have to look away from the road for directions

As for copilot i use it everyday for multiple deliveries as it routes fine
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K13ehr wrote:
it needs a separate app running for it to work anyway as it's not standalone yet either.

God only knows how much they'll want for it.


The Garmin dashboard one was about $100 - which needs to link to actual GPS hardware.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, not too horrifically priced then, but as said a pain to hide, a smaller fitted unit would be much better.

I'd also be a little concerned about the distraction it might cause being in the eyeline all the time, would you quickly get used to it being there, and ignore it until needed, also what about different light conditions affecting the usability of it.

The normal way still seems better to me in that it takes no more than the slightest glance to see the next turn, and mostly the voice is enough unless the street ends are many and close together.

Perhaps a better way would be to have the nav screen in the centre of the dash binnacle perhaps even acting as the speedo seeing as they're supposed to be more accurate anyway, but it would have to be made so that it can be attahced to different sat nav boxes so it can be kept updated regardless of make and also allow POIs to be added and uploaded, a bit like some car radios accept a lead from iPods or other MP3 players, it's just providing the speaker, likewise the binnacle is only providing the screen.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOT regs have something about cracks/stickers/etc. in line of sight in the windscreen. Obviously you would take it off prior to an MOT.

But… what happens if you're involved in an accident and this is proven to be in your line of sight? To be a HUD I presume you have to look "through" the glass of the device.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
simply a sad person like me who likes to run several nav systems side by side? Smile
Ha, a true map enthusiast (I really mean nut), I can empathise with that! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K13ehr wrote:
It might be a leap forward, but the scroats will see that a mile off, and relieve you of it very quickly, as it'll take a while to wrap it all up out of sight, and set it up again after a quick nip into the newsagents etc

It also looks like a prototype, what's needed is a tiny projector on top of the speedo binnacle and all the rest of the gubbins hidden away, not a display of techno ornamentation.
And the comment about running two sat navs together, the blurb says it needs a separate app running for it to work anyway as it's not standalone yet either.

God only knows how much they'll want for it.



The Peugeot 3008 has had a HUD for over three years, and it works VERY well while being "un-scroatable" as it folds down into the dash when cutting the motor. I almost bought the car just for the HUD. Laughing Smile Wink

Oh, and now that I'm on TT v9.15, they STILL can't get their metric speed conversions right. WAKE UP THERE, TOM TOM.
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