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Who uses the shortest distance route calculator in Tom Tom?

 
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djohnson
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:28 pm    Post subject: Who uses the shortest distance route calculator in Tom Tom? Reply with quote

Hi,

I found a small bug in the calculation of shortest routes in Tom Tom 3. I posted the bug to Tom Tom support. The reply from Tom Tom support is below and am somewhat dissapointed to learn that this particular feature might get removed. I for one use it a lot and find it very useful. Please post your thoughts on this feature. I'm interested to know how many people use this feature.

Here is the discussion with Tom Tom:-
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Customer 03/07/2004 01.21 PM
I often calculate routes using the shortest distance instead of the quickest. I do this because I sometimes prefer more scenic routes, which the shortest routes often give.

I have found a very irritating problem. If during live navigation of a shortest route, the GPS signal is lost or I take a wrong turn, the system auto calculates the quickest route instead of the shortest (which I had initially set). To illistrate what problem this caused for me, I was in Winchester in a laybay where the signal wasn't too good. I calculated the shortest route to where I live in Portsmouth. The shortest route is 21 miles. After the route had been calculated, I would put the navigator back on my dash board. Once the satellite was picked up, it would re-calculate my route using the quickest which was 31 miles. This kept happening repeatedly and meant I had to keep stopping the car to re-calculate. What a pain. Perhaps your tech guys could add this to their list of to do's for a future update.

I also have another suggestion. When doing a route by tapping on the nav screen and clicking navigate to, it would be nice if there was an option to say "Shortest Route" at that stage. Rather than just in the From/To type of calculation (which I use less often).

Auto-response 07/07/2004 08.31 AM
Dear Mr Johnson,

We apologize for not yet having responded to your email dated 03/07/2004 01.21 PM.
We will get back to you as soon as possible and apologize for the delay in answering your query.

Thank you for your patience and best regards,

The TomTom Customer Support Team

Response 13/07/2004 01.20 PM
Dear Mr Johnson,

We believe the future version of the software will only have one option for calculation but we are not sure. We tried to see if there was a workaround for your problem but there is not.

We hope to have answered your question to your satisfaction.
With best regards,

The TomTom Customer Support Team

Customer 13/07/2004 01.25 PM
If you remove this feature then that would be a great shame. I use it a lot and I expect so do a lot of other people.

If this feature was removed, then I'd be forced to use different software.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose if you reduced the speeds for the motorways and A roads, or set all roads the same speed, TomTom would probably find the shortest route as it would also be the quickest.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrT wrote:
I suppose if you reduced the speeds for the motorways and A roads, or set all roads the same speed, TomTom would probably find the shortest route as it would also be the quickest.


I guess that might be an option, but it would take away the flexibility of choosing fastest or shortest at the click of a button.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering about how to calculate the shortest route apart from having to go to MAP / AtoB. You are not alone, I would be disappointed if this feature went. Anyway, the quickest route often turns out to be the one with traffic lights, congestion etc...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gokhart wrote:
I was wondering about how to calculate the shortest route apart from having to go to MAP / AtoB. You are not alone, I would be disappointed if this feature went. Anyway, the quickest route often turns out to be the one with traffic lights, congestion etc...


Actually, slightly deviating from the initial post. I would find it useful if there was a "Take Shortcut" option. Sometimes I'll be sitting in a traffic jam where I know a quick shortcut to avoid the jam. But in places I'm not familiar, it would be useful to have a shortcut or deviate from route with say a "drop down menu" asking for maximum deveation in miles. Or a "Avoid this road for xx miles."

The trouble with using the alternate route option (although it's a good option) is that it re-plans the whole route. Sometimes we just need a quick getout.

Maybe something for Tom Tom to add to the wish list.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: short cut when in a jam Reply with quote

Isn't this already included as the 'avoid roadblock' feature?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: setting road speeds Reply with quote

I have the PalmOS version of TTN3 and can't find where to set the speeds - is this another example of a PktPC only option?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: short cut when in a jam Reply with quote

Wobbly wrote:
Isn't this already included as the 'avoid roadblock' feature?

W.


I'll have to check that. I'd assumed this was something to do with the Traffic plugin. Perhaps not. I'll check later.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: setting road speeds Reply with quote

Wobbly wrote:
I have the PalmOS version of TTN3 and can't find where to set the speeds - is this another example of a PktPC only option?

W.

Yes. Neither the Palm version or the GO versions of Navigator allow you to set speeds.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be disappointed if the shortest route option were removed. When driving at leisure, it makes much sense on economic grounds to take the shortest route (fuel economy for shorter distance and, probably, slower driving). How stupid of TT if they remove this!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This auto-recalculation bug also happens if you select a route type of "Walk" in the map mode.

For example, I wanted to know the quickest way to walk from Regent Street to Neal Street the other day -- planned a route of about 700 yards. At Picadilly Circus it lost the sats (GPS location wasn't optimal -- it was in my shirt pocket) and when it reacquired them the route shot up to 1.5 miles because it was avoiding all the one-way bits.

BTW, the actual route is straight up Shaftesbury Ave.
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