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I was going to add some screen shots, but It won't work on this forum for some reason?
Post the photos to ImageShack or simalar and then insert the links to the photos using [img] tags. Don't use any of the cleverly formatted links just find the direct link to the picture and use that.
Thanks Paul
Here's my effort.
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Last edited by DaveTTheDon on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:45 am; edited 1 time in total
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: You think you're hard done by?.....1st timer treat me ge
egg1000 wrote:
From my (probably biased) experience it would appear to be a gamble upgrading to the European maps, not an informed choice as I believe it should be. Whether the roads you want will be on your map upgrades, I have no idea and I don't believe there is a way to check?
Personally however, I wouldn't buy the map upgrades, but I think its clear from the thread I will most likely never purchase anything Tomtom again.
PS. I use photobucket for images, it gives you the [IMG] code in full.
Hi Egg
Ah well you see it was a pressy from the Kids, so I can't really complain too much now can I? All the same, its nowhere near as good as the built in jobby I had in my Toyota Landcruiser, that mother was so good it was frightening. It new all the back streets in France, and where the nearest McD's was!!! _________________ If you think you're here, then you can't be all there.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: You think you're hard done by?.....1st timer treat me ge
DaveTTheDon wrote:
egg1000 wrote:
From my (probably biased) experience it would appear to be a gamble upgrading to the European maps, not an informed choice as I believe it should be. Whether the roads you want will be on your map upgrades, I have no idea and I don't believe there is a way to check?
Personally however, I wouldn't buy the map upgrades, but I think its clear from the thread I will most likely never purchase anything Tomtom again.
PS. I use photobucket for images, it gives you the [IMG] code in full.
Hi Egg
Ah well you see it was a pressy from the Kids, so I can't really complain too much now can I? All the same, its nowhere near as good as the built in jobby I had in my Toyota Landcruiser, that mother was so good it was frightening. It new all the back streets in France, and where the nearest McD's was!!!
Considering the three screen shots we now have, (Yours show major roads and my two on page one show some differences between paid FULL maps for older machines and FULL on the newer machines) I think this shows what you're getting for your money, and furthermore, what you are missing when you think you are getting the FULL maps when you upgrade.
Plenty more options out there, until Tom tom can be honest and upfront about their map variances and upgrade options, I think I'll shift brand loyalties to someone, anyone, else. Garmin is the obvious other choice. Unless someone else can enlighten me?
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: Re: You think you're hard done by?.....1st timer treat me ge
DaveTTheDon wrote:
Does this mean its a total waste of time upgrading from the original map set that was delivered with the TT (i've got the 510 go, GB_plus_major_roads_of_WE v650.1110)
For a 510, it will offer you the
Western & Central Europe 2GB v8.30 - 1667.8 MB version.
This is the 2nd largest version available (if you ignore the one with IQ routing data which you can't use anyway)
as you are updating from a V6 with only the major roads of Europe, I would say that in your case it *is* well worth updating, you'll see a huge difference in the detail and quality.
Oh and by the way, you may want to modify the first picture you posted in your last post to disguise the device number, it's not good to share that around.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:52 am Post subject: Re: You think you're hard done by?.....1st timer treat me ge
egg1000 wrote:
Plenty more options out there, until Tom tom can be honest and upfront about their map variances and upgrade options, I think I'll shift brand loyalties to someone, anyone, else. Garmin is the obvious other choice. Unless someone else can enlighten me?
Do we know for sure that Garmin don't do something similar to get the maps on THEIR smaller devices too?
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: Re: You think you're hard done by?.....1st timer treat me ge
Andy_P wrote:
DaveTTheDon wrote:
Does this mean its a total waste of time upgrading from the original map set that was delivered with the TT (i've got the 510 go, GB_plus_major_roads_of_WE v650.1110)
For a 510, it will offer you the
Western & Central Europe 2GB v8.30 - 1667.8 MB version.
This is the 2nd largest version available (if you ignore the one with IQ routing data which you can't use anyway)
as you are updating from a V6 with only the major roads of Europe, I would say that in your case it *is* well worth updating, you'll see a huge difference in the detail and quality.
Oh and by the way, you may want to modify the first picture you posted in your last post to disguise the device number, it's not good to share that around.
Cheers Andy
Duly noted and dealt with. By the way, why? what use is the device number to anyone?
ATB
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:00 am Post subject:
egg1000 wrote
Quote:
I think I'll shift brand loyalties to someone, anyone, else. Garmin is the obvious other choice. Unless someone else can enlighten me?
If you're thinking about buying a new device anyway, then it's worth looking at the latest TTs. You would get a better device than any of the others and the comprehensive up-to-date maps.
You can't really compare an old TT with a new of any make and, if you read the other brand fora, you'll find many similar complaints about them as you get about TTs on here. _________________ TT Go Essential
For what it's worth. My TT Go730 has the 2Gb, modified version of W&C Europe. This map shows dirt roads and tracks in my local area of spain. Not all of them, just some of the larger ones. My old Garmin nuvi 760T showed all the dirt tracks. (But I couldn't get the nuvi 760T to Route from Calais to Barcelona without running out of memory! - Horses for Courses.)
If I ever do buy a map from TT it will be the W&C Eu map which is un-modified, hopefully it will show more of the smaller tracks I could use for cycling and less of the major routes into Eastern Europe which I'd probably never use. As you say "How do you know" what it displays until you have paid, downloaded and installed?
But I will probably buy another brand of SatNav rather than a new TT map. I'm not so dis-satisfied with my TT now that I understand it's foibles, I just fancy trying another brand and don't want to be tied to TT. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
Android with CamerAlert, OsmAnd+, Waze & TT Europe.
TomTom GO 730, GO 930, GO 940 & Rider2.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: New map on older device
Hi, Egg1000.
I have a TT Go700 with App 7.903 and latest maps Western Europe, v8.35.2421.
I have all the detail on this map of the roads you are 'missing' as per your second photoshot, first post.
Having said that, the maps are only as good as the info supplied by the mappers.
My TT tried to take us through the middle of a church and down a footpath in France last year. The church had been there for 800 years, so was not a newly built structure!
Back from nerja now. Last 5 mins of our journey were done by the stars. The reply I've had from tom tom whilst I was away was quite apologetic. It seems the guy that was helping me wasn't aware that the maps offered different levels of detail, but clearly they do. They say they are working on a solution. I personally doubt they will find one. I have simply asked them to clarify the issue at point of purchase. (remember teleatlas and tom tom DO have the mapping data). I still feel the issue should be raised to trading standards. But will await a response.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 am Post subject:
My original One came with UK map and when I bought Central Europe [not all of it, just the map:-)] this came as detail country maps with major routes, I could load those I needed when I needed them.
More difficult to handle, maybe, but then the detail could then be greater?
An alternative to the single Europe map that should fit on any machine with a little fiddling.
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