Missing cameras - M25 Variable section

Endeavour · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 15

Hi, just come back from holiday and on the drive round the M25 to Gatwick at the start of May I gave the database its first real test. I have to say I'm pretty disappointed.

The database doesn't seem to include a whole bunch of variable speed limit cameras around the Heathrow / M4 area of the M25. I checked my tomtom and there were no warnings for some blatantly obvious cameras within the variable speed limit area. The missing cameras were all between the M40 to M4 section, once I got past the M4 the cameras were recorded again.

I'm sure the cameras are there because I checked the gantries on the other side of the road as I drove past, but there's nothing on the database. The other variable limit cameras showed up, so it's not a config problem on my device.

What's going on?

Anita · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject:

If you'd done a search on "M25 cameras" you'd have found they're being discussed here.
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Endeavour · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 15

Then let me ask another question. Why have all the cameras been deleted from the previous database update when there is still a LOT of uncertainty about whether they are live or not?

Surely it makes more sense to include every possible camera and only remove it when it is confirmed to be non-functioning/a dummy etc?

I now have some trouble trusting your database, because you've removed cameras from it when you're not sure they're non-functional. Has this been done anywhere else?

I would rather you flag all cameras, even ones you're not sure of, so my gps keeps reminding me to check my speed, rather than flag most (which means I will have to search for cameras myself whilst driving, which is dangerous and the entire reason I bought your database).

In my opinion this is pretty serious.[/b]

MaFt · Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:02 am Post subject:

the cameras were NOT added and then removed. they simply have not been added yet due to submissions being all over the place! ie i do not know the exact location of said cameras and am waiting either for a verifier or some good submissions confirming the location.

once locations are verified (whether 'real' or 'dummy' they will be added). feel free to assist by submitting the locations of the cameras as these may help to verify locations already submitted.

if subsequent cameras turn out to be dummy's then they will have their ion changed on the google map to a dummy as per the m42 cameras

MaFt

Endeavour · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 15

MaFt · Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject:

Kremmen · Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:07 am Post subject:

The M25 between junctions 12 and 15 was subject to some serious widening work that took from March 2004 to November 2005.

During this rework they removed all the old overhead gantries and attached cameras and place new gantries along this section.

That will be why they are shown as removed, because they have been.

The new ones have only just been sited and so far no one knows if they are dummies, inactive or live.

Only time will tell.
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