Legal location on windscreen for bracket?

kiwibrit · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 4

I have been told that the TomTom bracket is technically illegal if it is mounted in the area covered by the wipers. Is that so? Any experience of police attitude on this one?

Not to difficult to mount outside wiper arcs on either of the family cars - but dealing with the power cable to the cigarette lighter would be a pain.

alix776 · Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject:

as long as its not interfearing with your vision it should be ok. ie dont stick it directly infront of the stearing wheel.

i maybe wrong on this but the windscreen wiper radius thing comes from the A zone which is usually the width of the stearing wheel
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Privateer · Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

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kiwibrit · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 4

Thank you. I quite like the idea of the ProClip. Not a problem for one of our cars which has an external aerial, but for the Corsa, I am not sure the TomTom would receive properly away from the windscreen. I'd rather not keep transferring the aerial between cars. However, I have the original TomTom Go - and I understand the aerials for that are no longer available.

I'll see if I can do some tests to see if the set will GPS lock when held at where a bracket would be located.

999tommo · Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject:

Technically, any stone chip or window sticker (not described) measuring more than 1cm in diameter in the swept area of the wipers directly in front of the driver, would be an MOT failure. This doesn't necessarily make it illegal. Anything stuck to the windscreen which obscures the driver's vision would be illegal. This is a matter of opinion for the individual Police Officer. I have my TTOne on the windscreen mount, in the extreme lower right of my screen and although I can see it, I wouldn't consider that it obstructs my vision at all. This would be the same philosophy I would use at work. Each case has to be taken on it's own merits. The next few times you see taxis, look inside, as they now have a multitude of things far worse than a single satnav device. Mobile phone holders, satnavs, call despatchers, sticky pads. Unless it gets silly, Police shouldn't bother you.
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Andy_P · Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:

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RDS · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 09, 2006 Posts: 242

A readers letter in the motoring section of either last weekends D. Telegraph or Sunday Times said how a car failed it's MOT due to the tax disc being in the wiper arc despite it being positioned in the usual place ie bottom left windscreen.
The MOT tester merely moved the disc to top left and the vehicle passed.

So I guess anything that is situated within the wiper arc/zone could be illegal.

What I think should be really discouraged are the things seen hanging from rear view mirrors ie dolls, bears, CD's, parcel shelves full of toys and rear windows covered in stickers. All can easily obscure the presence of a pedestrian, motor cyclist or car

I'm always amazed at how some drivers manage to see out of the vehicles sometimes.

chauf4 · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:53 am Post subject:

I think you should be fine with you sat nav stuck to the screen in the bottom right hand corner because that is where the Surrey police force have their tomtom's mounted.

If it's good enough for them, then it's ok for all of us.
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Green_ninja · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 27, 2006 Posts: 51

I have to say it worries me where some people fit their satnavs, I've seen them regulalry right in the middle of the screen below the rearview mirror.
It's commonsense (well it is to me) that you mount it in such a way that you can see it easily but so that it doesn't obstruct your view.
At the extreme right where the A pillar is or as low as possible so that it sits' on the dash as this way it doesn't restrict your vison.

I had a Garmin i3 (not a bad little device but I prefer TomTom) and in their istallation instructions actually cover this.

chauf4 · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject:

LesP2008 · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject:

Try driving at 159mph and see how the courts treat you. I doubt if you'll get an absolute discharge with no points, ban or fine.[/quote]

I think this bears a bit of sarcasm too, although i have to say i agree with the observation.

Off topic, but what about these dash displays that stick your speed etc right in front of your eyes on the screen, heads up i think they call it, surely that must be a distraction.

RDS · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 09, 2006 Posts: 242

Sarcasm was recognised in the original post and heavy sarcasm certainly intended in my reply. However I guess it is worth noting that just because the police do or get away with something it is automatically OK for the rest of us to follow.

kbv1 · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject:

if you ever get caught going 159mph down the motorway or 80 in a 30 just tell them you were testing out your car. Just like a copper did where i live. He went to court and was found guilty and nothing happend to him, suprise suprise!!

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