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Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 634 Location: Lincolnshire, England
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject:
Today, I tried to edit the name of a custom location; i.e. a location that I entered in the Favourites list using Save Location. Unfortunately, the Edit Favourites function does not allow a simple change to the text of the entry. Instead, it goes through a procedure lifted from the Select Stop by Address function. This means that the name of a favourite that is edited has to include a city, street, etc. from CP 6’s database. The Edit Favourite function is therefore useless for custom locations, which have either to keep their existing names or be re-entered next time the user is there.
This further reinforces the impression that CP 6 is little more than CP 4 or earlier with 7-digit postcodes added, together with a token few tweaks and new facilities that have not been thought through or properly tested.
When it first came out, Copilot must have had quite a Wow! factor, given its Waypoints and Optimize stops functions. Now, it is being left way behind because of its lack of basic facilities and a plethora or unaddressed faults that would lead users to consign even the cheapest shareware title quickly to the bottom drawer. _________________ Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: Favourite names
To edit your favourite names just look on the PPC for /copilot/save/favorite.lst, copy it to your PC, edit the names in Notepad or other text editor, and copy it back. Worked for me, but of course it's unofficial/unsupported!
What a dreadful user interface this software has...
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 634 Location: Lincolnshire, England
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject:
Teaman quite rightly suggests:
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…edit your favourite names… in Notepad or other text editor
Certainly, that's the workaround, but the point was, firstly, to highlight a bug on a bug thread and, secondly, to say more or less what you say in your closing paragraph:
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What a dreadful user interface this software has...
This software relies far too heavily on workarounds - where they are available- and the fact that users simply put up with many of the errors. There are those of us who would like the software to work logically and efficiently. _________________ Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005
Another issue with CP6. I am beginning to wonder why I bought this piece of *!$^^^%!
Not only is it not possible to set the routing to "shortest" but in addition I found out today that other routing options do not work either. For instance, despite setting motorways to "least favourite", CP6 still insists on routing using motorways.
And after choosing the "Going to...", "New trip" option, clicking on "Pick on Map" takes me to "Search Centre", where the options are "address", "favourite", "contact", and "POI". How is that related to picking anything on the map???
Joined: Dec 28, 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Ambler, PA USA
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:34 am Post subject:
'Pick stops on map':
this feature frustrated me (and many others here too, I think) at the outset, but it can be made useful.
When selected from the Trip Edit window, CP just wants some user input to get to any arbitrary map point for starters. I put in any nearby city and "city center" as the quickest way to get to a map, and then I pan and zoom from there to pick my stop. Unfortunately CP prompts you with all the other possible ways to center the map on a known point, and some of these would take a long time to completely specify. Meanwhile, you've forgotten where you want to go or you can't see through the tears of rage.
A more friendly way to 'Pick Stop From Map' would be for CP to zoom immediately to a map showing the last stop entered or the last-mentioned point of any kind. Users want to see a map immediately when selecting this option.
It's easier to 'Pick Stop from Map' when you are already in one of the Map Views. As you have probably noticed, if you tap and hold on a street or intersection for 2 secs you get the popup option to "Add Stop". Unfortunately again this can be an annoyance when you are just tapping to see the name of the road. But when you get familiar with it, it is a convenient way to add waypoints to a trip or to modify the Auto Routing to take a path more to your liking. _________________ Doug
CoPilot 6.0.1.24 (USA)
Compaq iPaq 3970, with PC2003
Navman sleeve (3400)
Blue Tooth GPS
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: ETA issue Cure
This has worked for me
To fix the ETA's, please follow the steps below:
1. Close Copilot
2. Click on Start-Programs-File Explorer
3. Browse to My Device-Storage Card-Copilot
4. Locate and rename the folder "SAVE" to "SAVEOLD"
5. Open CoPilot and test.
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:
Robin2 wrote:
.... there is the same crazy routing as you try to put in waypoints on the Calais to Soissons run to try to pin it down to the sensible A26-D1 route. A 150 mile route is inflated to about 210 miles with all the loops and returns which CoPilot insists upon
Robin
I reported some months ago that Alk had emailed me to say that they were able to reproduce the same routing problems as I had told them about, and new Europe maps were being produced and would be sent out in a couple of weeks. Well, several promises later I was still waiting, but received a phone call on Tuesday to say they were in the post. A new set of CDs arrived today, and certainly the crazy routes I found on the original France map have now been corrected. I shall try it out for real next month, but fingers crossed!
Robin
PS The application version on the CD was 6.0.1.68, so I haven't bothered to change the installation in the PDA. It's only the maps which have been changed _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 634 Location: Lincolnshire, England
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject:
After reading Robin2's above post, I contacted ALK for my own revised map disks. Two of their agents verbally denied any knowledge of a map update, so I gave the second agent the link to Robin's post.
I have now received the following from ALK in writing:
Regarding our last conversation regarding a map update
Unfortunately, the information you sent to us are not correct.
The maps for Copilot 6 have not been updated since its release.
Obviously, this seems a bit strange to say the least. Is there any more you can add, please, Robin2 _________________ Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:08 am Post subject:
Well, what can I say! I have new maps, and the errors I reported last December in the France maps have been fixed! I shall use them in earnest in France in a few weeks, and will then discover if they are completely satisfactory. I'm not aware of any changes to the UK maps - but I didn't have any serious routing problems here.
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Crewe, UK
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:34 am Post subject:
I'll watch this with interest. I put in a complaint to ALK about French motorways on my return from France on Sunday (before I'd seen Robin's post), asking when they could update my maps. Received acknowledgment but no reply yet. _________________ nick
Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:
PONDEROUS wrote:
What now, I wonder?
So Robin2 has an updated map and ALK maintain that such a thing doesn't exist. Perhaps it's time for a representitive from ALK to respond in this forum.
Hey, I know. Dave Burrows now works for ALK, maybe he can intervene and resolve this... _________________ Gone fishing!
Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Crewe, UK
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:55 am Post subject:
ALK have " found it to be a mapping problem and that certain restrictions have been put the maps you have" and are sending me maps "with the mapping restrictions taken off", which is presumably what Robin2 has received.
I suspect this will also fix Paolo's problems and the Mont Blanc Tunnel problem referred to in the "CoPilot6 Routing Anomalies" thread.
I'll let you know when I get them[/url] _________________ nick
Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 634 Location: Lincolnshire, England
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:
redhorse writes:
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ALK have " found it to be a mapping problem and that certain restrictions have been put the maps you have" and are sending me maps "with the mapping restrictions taken off", which is presumably what Robin2 has received.
Yet, they still tell me that there are no revised maps!!!!! _________________ Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005
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