CP6 bugs

Robin2 · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject:

Found a new bug today. The kilometre option doesn't work - you can select kilometres but it defaults to miles. It's important that this is corrected, as I need km in France etc
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neil01 · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject:

So far I am not getting the problem with the time being fixed at 1 mile per minute, although as mentioned in a previous post, for many journeys this is actually about right. In fact it was the exact figure I often used in my pre sat nav days for estimating long distance journeys which were not at peak times. It served me as an estimate very well too - more often than not, I arrived within 5-10 minutes of the estimate.

This 'bug' aside, reading through other posts, one thing that seems to be starting to become more and more obvious, is that we seem to have some who are affected by varous problems, and some who are not.

Obviously, some problems of these types can always be attributed to user error, but there are just too many people and problems with these anomolies. Apart from differences between versions for diferrent markets, which will no doubt also account for a percentage of these, I am starting to wonder if there are different versions on the CD's which have been sent out.

For the record, mine was direct from ALK earlier this month, and is the UK & Ireland vesion 6.0.0.68, does anyone have a different version?

PONDEROUS · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:

Neil01 writes that his CP 6 version is 6.0.0.68 and asks if others are any different. Mine is the same as that on the Desktop PC, but 6.0.0.77 on the PPC.
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neil01 · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:

Now I know that Ponderous got his copy before me - he was posting about it some time before mine arrived.

The fact that his version is apparrently newer than mine, and the fact that mine, which came direct from ALK, was delayed because of a shortage of stock, it would be reasonable to expect that mine would be the later version.

Just what is going on here?

Two possibilities immediately spring to mind, poor stock control, and the possibility that they had to revert to a previous version because the latest version was worse.

We now have two UK versions, I wonder if we will find more?

We now certainly seem to have a possible explaination as to why some people seem to have a different set of problems to others. I would suggest that until we start to see patches appearing so that we can be sure that everyone is running the same version, we try to remember to say which sub-version we are using.

PONDEROUS · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject:

Neil01 writes of my CP 6 version that:

CrashBiker · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:32 am Post subject:

I have the 1 mile per hour problem and version 6.0.0.68 on my ppc.

Crash

Robin2 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:

I got mine long after Ponderous, and it's 6.0.0.68 on the PPC.
Discovered yet another bug today..... Shortest route doesn't work, you can select Shortest, but after clicking OK and returning it has defaulted back to Quickest. Shortest does work on the PC version, but can produce some very odd results if you play with the road preferences (which don't work on my PPC either!). A route from Swansea to Peterborough, shortest, favouring dual carriageways more than motorways, sends you right up to the north west of England before looping down to Peterborough...about 150 miles extra!
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Robin2 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:48 am Post subject:

Ponderous, please look at your PMs
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GregW · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject:

I've got 6.0.0.68, and I got mine from Clove here in the UK.

I get the 1 mile/hour estimate bug too.

But the biggest pain is that the ETA function is just useless. I just get a countdown from 24 minites each time that resets - see thread elsewhere. I'm wondering if it is related to the 1mph bug?

I've reported this to ALK, giving more complete details.

I have never had a hang or a crash - I'm using a Loox 720. The only time I had to restart the app was when I hit "Detour" (which has worked well, on occasion getting me out of a literal jam), the "wait" symbol in the middle of the screen would not disappear. No detour was suggested, but the rest of the app worked. An exit & restart sorted things out. My guess is that a detour could not be computed for some reason, and that the path through the code in this circumstance missed removing the wait symbol.

Overall I'm pretty happy. I sometimes think the route finding favours fewer instructions. For example, I plotted a route from my house to Leicester Tigers rugby ground. It took me down the M1 to J21, then into Leicester that way. But if I forced it to exit at J22 and go down the A50, it gave me a route that was both shorter and quicker than the first route it suggested! It simply had a few more turns.

Steve101 · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:

Has anyone noticed in CP6 that when you scroll through a menu such as a list of POI, the scroll bar sometimes appears, but other times it doesn't. I noticed this a few times. Its annoying if you want to select an option in the POI, like zoo, for example. You have to sit there with your stylus on the arrow down button for a minute whilst it scrolls to the bottom.

Also, when Im changing the distance on POI Alerts for "Report POIs this far ahead" I have to tap the arrow down button to 'increase' the distance, rather than the other way around. I would presume that up was to 'up' the distance!

neil01 · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

I haven't noticed the problem Steve101 quotes, however I have noticed a definate improvement in both speed and resistance to crashing, if there are no stops present in the 'Going To...' screen before you access any of the Settings screens.

As to the arrows being the 'wrong way around' yes - and I don't think that it is the only place!

PhilB · Lifetime Member Joined: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 83

I've got version 6.0.0.68 on the ppc and saw the eta countdown problem yesterday for the first time also have my own postcode about 5 miles out. I've also reported that in 3D display mode the 0.5 mile markers are wildly out at times. On leaving Kidderminster for Bridgnorth on the A442 the audio report is that the journey is 11.6 miles and the little display in the top left also shows this but the mile markers on the display show over 12 miles to go. Also on a long run eg 40/50 miles between motorway junctions the mile markers disappear after about 20 miles.

I've raised all these as bug reports.
Cheers
Phil

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:

I have been experimenting with version 6.0.0.77, to see if it has the "kilometres not sticking" problem reported by Robin2 at the very beginning of the thread. This seems to be the situation:

Kilometres do stick, but only in Guidance mode. In Planning mode, it is Miles only.

Even in Guidance mode, the Settings show Miles whether the actual navigation is in Miles or Kilometres.

It may have been reported elsewhere, but CP 6 frequently crashes when the settings (not just miles/kilometres) are being changed.

I think that sufficient bugs in CP 6 have now appeared to make a patch very urgent. The patch needs to materialise very shortly if there is to be any confidence that, with this version, the matter is being taken seriously.
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PONDEROUS · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:

I have been comparing notes with some other CP 6 users over the past few days and we have found that CP 6.0.0.68 and CP 6.0.0.77 may be one in the same.

I have now got v.6.0.0.68 on my PPC after re-installing from the very same set of disks that previously produced v6.0.0.77. I hasten to add that I took a backup before re-installing, and I restored it to check the version. Others have also witnessed the anomaly, so there is no question of any forgetfulness or confusion on this occasion.

The anomaly coupled with the intermittency of manifestation of some bugs makes it difficult to assess what is happening with which release of CP 6. The issue of a patch is therefore all the more urgent. When that is available, at least we will all be able to compare like with like.
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