PocketGPSWorld.com launch POICapture for TomTom GO

doff · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

Thanks for your help.

Sorry for the error, the zip file downloaded was system-5.202, and my Go shows that I am now using V5.202.
I take there is not a version 5.203?

Ta

EOS20D · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 01, 2005 Posts: 16

Hello everyone. This is my first post so apologies if it is in the wrong place or already answered.

Go700.

I can't find out how to do the following. After successfully installing the speed camera database, speed camera voice warnings and POI Capture my telephone symbol that was on the first screen that comes up after touching the screen has moved to the last page. Can I edit anything to move it back to the first screen. I have read all the posts here and it seems that the .mnu file is the one but everyone seems to be having a lot of trouble changing things.

Any advice would be very much appreciated.
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Trevor

lbendlin · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:

Zeena · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject:

Maybe this is answered before, but I have a couple of questions:

Actually - when is the coordinates captured?

It seems like it is straight after the message "POICapture is loading..." message disapearing, or in fact the POICapture app have started. I recognise a little delay here on my 700. (the POI are placed 1 sec after I have pressed the ikon for starting POIcapture)

Could the Preferenses ikon be placed on the first screen for POIcapture?
It is a little bit confusing to record a POI and select type etc before you can access this funktion. I believe there is a good reason why this is like this, - so its not ment as critisism, - but just my "need to know" that is playing in my head...
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lbendlin · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:

yes, coordinates are captured first thing when the application is started. However you need to keep in mind that GPS has a refresh rate of 1 Hz, so worst case you have data that is 1 second old.

the preferences icon has been put on the last screen because it is used much less often than the other icons. We rather have a slightly awkward path to it than have it on the first screen collecting dust....
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Zeena · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:06 am Post subject:

Ok - I see... it make sense!

What is the "Start/Stop Timer" function under "preferenses" ?
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lbendlin · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:

When the timer is enabled and you run POICapture it will record a camera of "unknown type unknown speed this side" within five seconds UNLESS you make a selection within that time. Most people seem to think this is a useless feature so we didn't advertise it.
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forky · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject:

I must be some dumb cause I cant finf the .mnu file that came with poicapture. Any suggestions please
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DerekG · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 08, 2003 Posts: 30

Lutz,

As the author of POIcapture, you might have the best perspective on this issue with POI Warner's (www.navigating.de) modification of the TomTom menus.

POIwarner creates a .CAP file (just like you) in the SDKregistry directory, but there is no .mnu file present, just the .bmp files to drive the extra icons on a fifth menu page. I've not found whether a .mnu file is created "on-the-fly" and deleted when TTN5 closes down, but there is no permanent .mnu file in the SDKregistry directory as a result of POIwarner's installation and execution logic. My assumption is that POIwarner extends the standard menu built into the TTN5 executable program and runs it from memory without having to save it to a file.

After installing your POIcapture I get all the expected results and none of the problems that previous posts have had to grapple with. However, I guess that POIwarner's .cap file is not being executed, or at least if it is, POIcapture's preferred replacement (based on the stored .mnu file) is superseding it.

I'd like the best of both worlds, your POI capture processing and POIwarner's detection, but how do I achieve it? Do I merge the .cap files, and does it matter which order I place the merged lines of code (i.e. yours in front or behind)? Is the solution fundamentally flawed since you rely on a stored .mnu file and POIwarner doesn't? I guess that POIcapture needs a .mnu file to promote the capture icon to page 1, because otherwise, the additional icon(s) are placed in their default location on pages 4 and 5 - as other people have experienced when the .mnu file can't be found or isn't installed properly.

Well done Thumbs Up

on such a splendid applet, I just hope you are not disappointed by the number of issues that get thrown up?

forky · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:

After over a dozen re-formats and installations it has finally worked albeit I now have my phone on last page, unless there is an easy way ro get this back to page 1 I will leave well alone
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lbendlin · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject:

Regarding POIWarner:

It is possible to include just a CAP file and not change the TomTom.mnu

But that means the POIWarner icon will appear on a new menu page after all standard items.

If you have more than one CAP file in the folder AND you are using a custom TomTom.mnu file then this TomTom.mnu file needs to contain references to all the CAP files.

You do that by placing TASK_SDK1, TASK_SDK2, etc at the appropriate places in the TomTom.mnu

For example: (PLEASE NOTE THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE!!!)

forky · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject:

Cracked it. All now hunky Dory, phone now on page 1 as well as poicapture

Laughing

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DerekG · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 08, 2003 Posts: 30

Lutz,

I had to slowly read your response a couple of times but it makes perfect sense. I inserted the additional MENUITEM|TASK_SDK statements you suggested and - as luck would have it - POIcapture ends up on page 1 and the multiple POIwarner icons display neatly in a separate page of their own on the end. Whatever the embarrassing coding mistake was that TomTom have made, it appears not to disrupt the POIwarner and POIcapture merge. Thanks for your help and well done for such a useful TTN add-on.

For anyone wishing to attempt the same menu merge, you will not get any POIwarner menu items unless you modify the TomTom.mnu file found as part of POIcapture's installation in folder \TomTom\SDKregistry found in the root of your PDA's main memory. The last 6 lines of the menu are:

DerekG · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 08, 2003 Posts: 30

Lutz,

I really feel that TomTom's embarrassment should come second place to explaining a quirky bug to other interested forum members. I don't know if the bug I've found in the SDK menu processing is the same as the one you hinted at, but if you hadn't given me such a big hint, I'd have wasted many hours looking in the wrong direction!

If there is more than one .cap file in the SDKregistry folder, then TomTom processes them in reverse date order (i.e. newest first, oldest last) - not alphabetically as you might expect! A point to check is that POIcapture.cap should have a newer date than POIwarner.cap and, if not, just open and save the problem file to reset it to the current date and time. This is only likely to occur if you amend the .cap files to (maybe) change the icon name or the file path for the programs if you relocate them from the standard folder to a memory card.

lbendlin · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:14 am Post subject:

Ahh, you are getting pretty close.. :-)

Two more things to consider
- a cap file can serve more than one icon
- the system time on the GO is not settable, and it changes to Jan 1 2005 with each soft reset.
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