Fix problem with navman 510

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

I have also had the same problem on quite a few occasions.
I have had to resort to turning the unit on and off via the switch on the back of the unit.
It will sometimes do it after turning off one day then turning back on the next morning even though the unit had a gps signal when it was turned off.
Sounds like a software glitch of gps transmitter problem.
Whats going on!!!!!!!!

martley · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 7

I too had this problem with the first ICN 510 I had. I kept persisting with it but in the end I took it back. Waiting up to 15 - 30 minutes, even after initially loading up thr thing made me very stressed, especially when I had to get somewhere quick. After taking it back, the new one was and still is fine. Gets a fix in about 30 seconds at the most, even in a car...so just take it back again and get another. I do really like this item especialy when comapred to things like Tom Tom 'cause it is so compact and portable.

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

Total pile of Sh*t.
Yet again this morning i got in my recovery lorry after using the thing last night and having a satelite fix working ok.
5 o clock this morning i had a call out.
I turned it on and yet again no signal.
It gave a location of toddington up on the M1 which is one of my points of interest funny that as i was in High Wycombe some 40 odd mile away.
My last position used was High Wycombe.
Fu*k me i turned the thing on and off 4 times using the reset on the back of the unit and everytime it told me i was still in Toddington when i was actually leaving wycombe en route to Oxford via Stokenchurch.
I actually got out of the lorry in Stokenchurch and held the bloody thing while it reset.
Still in bloody toddington.
Gave up got back in lorry and low and behold after 20 mins of my journey it actually got a fix.
What the hell is going on.
I am a recovery driver who has binned all his maps and am now totally reliant on this pile of sh*t.
How the hell can i trust it for guidence when nearly everytime i turn it on it is not working properly.
i can get out of bed at anytime of the night a be on the road within 10 mins but this bloody thing is still asleep or dreaming it is elsewhere.

Tim Buxton · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:

Return it to where you bought it from and get them to give you a replacement. Or ring Navman Tech. Support on 01293 780 500. Have you installed the Service Pack?
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DreX · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 19, 2005 Posts: 32

You may not have changed position
But the Sat sure as hell has

If you switch the unit off for a couple of hours
then the satelites have moved thousands of miles.
The Unit will have to re-acquire 4-6 Satellites
If you live in an area where there are High Buildings
2 or 3 of the sats might be blocked out

However it shouldnt take any more than 3 or 4 minutes
Maybe there is something in the truck interfering with the unit

REmember the navman 510 isnt designed for use in a bumpy
breakdown truck
The Electronics are Fragile and dont take kindly to being constantly Rattled

DreX · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 19, 2005 Posts: 32

Try clicking on the GPS staus screen
going to the Second or thirs screen
and see how many satelites the unit is picking up
The Green Vertical bars show a good sat lock

If it is detecting only 2 then the aerial is ok
the Gps signal is being hidden by something
Like a building

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

Hi Tim.
Yes i have installed service pack i will try to contact tech support thanks for that.
As for the other replies i am nowhere near any tall structures,the unit is in direct site in the windscreen "believe me the screen area is vast"
The screen is not heated or coated and normally i do not have problems with the unit once it gets a fix that is!!.
It is not a bumpy old truck it is approximately £55k worths and fairy new, nothing is interfering with the signal and i thought these things were advertised as being able to use on a bike, i take it they probably mean mountain bike as well so so much for it being fragile as using it on a bike would rattle it more than it gets in my truck!!

Spider-101 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 18

I find that getting a fix in 2 to 3 mins is normally not a problem provided I have a signal from 4 or more satelites and I'm STATIONARY. If you try to get a first fix whilst moving it makes much heavier weather of it.

ferret79 · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: no fix

Well it seems that after my post about this problem of getting a fix seems to be very frequent, and looks like a lot of people out there luckily have got a good one and i'm pleased for them, having said that it seems like there is also a LOT of bad ones as well i had 2 of them one after the other, I totally agree with gismobody its darn frustrating when you need to rely on your purchace to help you get were your going and having paid (in some cases) nearly £500.00 for it then you should be able to rely on it, my first one "locked on" when it felt like it and the second one nearly got launched out of the car window cause it was no better than the first..it would lock on sometimes after about 45 seconds but other times it took up to an hour,I think the qaulity control needs uprating at navman because there are an awfull lot of people out there that are getting frustrated with these 510's that are not working properly and yes we have all read the instructions, its no good people coming back and replying that how good they think the 510's are and that the Navman 510 is brilliant because this thread is all about the many bad ones thats being sold - and no we havn't all got reflected windscreens-the problem is the darn things don't work as they should but like i said some people have got a good one which we mostly seem to hear about. It is no use blaming the satalite resception because I have now gone over to Garmin and have had NO TROUBLE AT ALL with it, i have also had one about 2 years ago and had no trouble with that either also my freinds have them and reported no trouble so it cant be the satelites, they lock on EVERY time after about 15 seconds and never fail but this isn't about Garmin, all a can say is for the people who have had the same probs as me is that i realy sympathise with them so come on Navman lets get a bit of qaulity control on these things that your charging 500 quid a time for.

cactusgreen · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:36 am Post subject:

My 2p's worth...

All those people with FIX problems - can I ask if you are using just the tiny built in aerial - fine for the most part but the better option must be the repeater one Question

Can't say I've had many problems with mine - the times it does cause a delay to FIX is usually when I start off on a journey before a FIX is in place, anywhere near to a any of the major military bases - and that can be as far away as 10 miles 8O ...interesting that gismoggy had problems around High Wycombe - as that's right on top of a NATO strike command and missile silos - purposely placed there because of the natural shilding effect from radio/microwave interference and that's also why mobile reception is so poor despite having one of the highest concentrations of repeater mast in England! And most interestingly - diesel engine vehicles, because the stray signals from them are so much greater than the petrol units.

Garmin do have better reception - because they have a greater powered receiver...so do the other Navman ICN's - that's why they cost more Wink

ferret79 · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: don't agree

Sorry dont agree with catusgreen..no offence but if the reciever aint up to the job then whats the point in fitting them and in some cases you can get a garmin for (in some cases) less than you pay for a Navman 510 and i havn't read a forum on them yet having a fix problem. I do believe though that you have a valid point that the reciever just isn't as good as it should be and for the cash you pay it SHOULD be - it just isn't up to the job in hand...I hold a city and guilds in radio transmissions and comunications so i do know a little bit about the subject of what should -and shouldn't be regarding reception and transmissions and the 510's seem to be asleep half the time. I stood on the top of a hill in the middle of a field with both of mine and it would not lock on to any satalites, tried it the following day and it worked reasonably well but this hit and miss method is not good enough especially if you drive for a living lik gismomoggy. Probably if i had climbed up a ladder on the hill in the middle of the field it mite have worked a bit better Rolling Eyes

. The problem needs addressing.

cactusgreen · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: don't agree

Simon1 · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: don't agree

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

Hi with response to the poor fix in High Wycombe due the the military bases i am in total disagrement ref the shielding as i have an after market fit alpine unit of 8 years old in my BMW and i have never had a satelite fix problem.
Yes i probably agree with the other post ref the navman having a less powerfull transmitter due to the portability issues.
No i have not got an external aerial "but there again what differnce does this make when you take the unit out of the vehicle into the open and it still does not get a fix".
Like the other posts state it is about time Navman sorted this issue head on and other people stopped harping on about theirs working ok.
Good luck to you but believe me you make me feel no better stating this.
No offence I do not wish to know this!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is an inherrent fault
It needs addressing.
If anyone from navman tech is reading these posts please raise the relevant issues with the correct department and resolve these problems as i am still having fix problems and the unit is a piece of SH*T !!!!!!
It is no bloody good waiting for a fix when i have a 45 minute response 24 hour a day call out 365 days a year.
People at navman take note.
It may be you involved in a accident or your car broken down by the side of the road when it is Pi**ing down with rain and you are on the way to the airport.
Don,t be surprised if it is me who gets the callout to help you or your wife/girlfriend and you get really

of waiting cause when i get there you will no why i am so bloody late!!!!!!

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