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SpeedCam Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 753 Location: Biggleswade, BEDS
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: So much for HD Traffic - Stuck in M1 Closure..... |
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I've been sat on the M1 since 3:15 with my new 940 happily saying that its traffic is upto date..... and no sign or indication that the M1 is closed.....
Good old TomTom..... |
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matthewj Frequent Visitor
Joined: Apr 03, 2006 Posts: 751
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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There is a 133 minute delay showing on the HD web version.
Also loads of delays reported on the roads nearby. |
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SpeedCam Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 753 Location: Biggleswade, BEDS
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Still nothing showing at 15:47 'Traffic information up to date' |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Only 127 minutes on the TT HD website now......
LPG Fuelled Car on fire has closed both lanes. Police un sure how long for.... (from BBC News)
ETA:
Now 162 Minutes. No way to force an update? Restart unit? |
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matthewj Frequent Visitor
Joined: Apr 03, 2006 Posts: 751
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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It would be very good to know the outcome of this "on the road". The HD web site is now showing a lot more than it was yesterday, and looks very impressive now. I think someone has given the system a big kick to unblock it. If this information gets out onto the x40 devices, it will help a lot.
I'm actually quite impressed with it now! (Though sympathise for the people I can see on the CCTV cameras sitting in big queues!) |
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perussell Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 12, 2006 Posts: 292
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I've been sat on the M1 since 3:15 with my new 940 happily saying that its traffic is upto date..... and no sign or indication that the M1 is closed..... |
...and yet another reason why despite having invested in my 540 LIVE I continue to pay my £30 a year to renew my Trafficmaster Freeway subscription which NEVER misses these incidences unless it has just happened or the resulting queue is less than 2 miles. The Trafficmaster is fed direct from those roadside or bridge mounted cameras and operates in real time.
Between the Trafficmaster and my 540 I don't tend to get held up that much (at least not without warning) and if the accident or whatever has only just happened then nothing is going to 'save you' since you will be in the jam before any system can react.
Now that's a thought for the next generation - a sat nav than can predict where delays are GOING to happen |
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MrT Frequent Visitor
Joined: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 2143 Location: Surrounded by A1, M1 & M25
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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My 940 has been showing the traffic problems on the M1 for several hours now and the A1 at Welwyn.
Out of interest Speedcam how are you posting to this site (mobile, Laptop PDA?) whilst driving on the M1? _________________ Drivelux |
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SpeedCam Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 18, 2004 Posts: 753 Location: Biggleswade, BEDS
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Eventually 740 started showing the delays at 4:15 but this was far too late...
The motorway was stationary so I was using my Netbook & 3G connection, full video conference using MSN Messenger and then I had chance to watch Top Gear using BBC iPlayer.... great fun.. |
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Fozzee Regular Visitor
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know how to refresh the TT traffic server on the 540? Sometimes I have had the yellow triangle but weather and cam updates is working. I can't find a way to get the tomtom to research for the tt traffic server without switching it off and on again, or will it automatically start when the server is up and running because I don't see it retrying at any intervals? |
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MrT Frequent Visitor
Joined: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 2143 Location: Surrounded by A1, M1 & M25
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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There is not an update button as such but when I have had issues, probably due to GPRS connectivity, I have found that you can start updates by browsing the map and looking at an inicident (if you have any) or trying another live service such as buddies or weather can also trigger it. This seems to force the unit to make a server connection which then sets the traffic off updating.
I have often wondered how HD Traffic determines your locality for the updates, is it from the GPRS station you are connected to or does the unit send your GPS location when requesting an update? _________________ Drivelux |
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Mick_1959 Lifetime Member
Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Cambridgeshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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There is definately something odd with HD traffic.
Today, a fatal accident happened on the A141 March bypass, in Cambridgeshire, closing the road.
It has been widely reported on local and national radio since this morning, and even now, drivers are being re-routed or advised to avoid area.
Yet, colleagues with 940's and s with X40 devices and HD traffic have not got anything showing on their devices.
However, my 920 with GPRS has shown problem all day so far as has my wifes 720 with RDS.
Can anyone can shed a light on why HD is missing information that is displayed on GPRS and RDS, or is the traffic info sourced differently for HD _________________ Mick
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muchus Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 29, 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if it's because of no traffic on the road, and the HD info comes from Vodafone signals moving. HD traffic will just see it as the road being clear, unless there's some human intervention |
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philpugh Lifetime Member
Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 2003 Location: Antrobus, Cheshire
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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muchus wrote: | I wonder if it's because of no traffic on the road, and the HD info comes from Vodafone signals moving. HD traffic will just see it as the road being clear, unless there's some human intervention |
But it will (it should) detect that the same Vodafone 'phone has not moved for a while and spot a serious problem. I believe they also use other traffic information sources for HD information. _________________ Phil |
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Mick_1959 Lifetime Member
Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Cambridgeshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for replies.
It would seem that this road closure problem not reported by HD units is not an isolated incidence.
I was surprised that HD being only device not repporting the accident or road closure. perhaps the traffic at standstill was ignored.
I think i will stick with GPRS for now. _________________ Mick
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matthewj Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, HD is showing a closure on the M1 at the moment, "M1 J23A EAST MIDLANDS AIRPORT → J25 NOTTINGHAM closed between J24A DERBY and J25 NOTTINGHAM" which is not there according to any other source, including the CCTV.
[edit:] Also M4 J1 CHISWSICK → J3 FELTHAM closed between J1 CHISWSICK and J3 FELTHAM is shown, but not present.
Looks like road closures are a problem, but the rest of the system is working well. |
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