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Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject:
Medion Navigator 4.4 is OK, if the unit is a PDA and not a PNA then you could then purchase TomTom 5 at a later date, the updated version of Navigon, version 5 (who supply Medion) is not as good as version 4.4
Thanks for the reply, I think it is a PDA, it's a Makro Special.
Sorry to ask further questions but, how does version 4.4 take destinations? Is it by address or postcode (how many characters), the only reason I ask is that I was watching QVC the other day, they had an Acer N35 with copilot live which had full 7 character postcode recognition. I have had a quick scout around and can't find any mention of 7 character support with copilot.
Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject:
Version 4.xx and the latest version 5.xx only use 5 digits for post code search, not sure about Copilot, the new TomTom v5 uses full 7 digit search.
The normal search on Medion/Navigon is Town - Road - etc, basically the same as TomTom, but sometimes you have to try several times as the Road may not be listed in the Town it should be ?
Both TomTom and Navigon use Navteq / Tele Atlas for there map data, the same as many other GPS software providers, and the data is usually about 12 months behind when it comes to market as it takes that long to convert the data to their needs.
I note that you say the unit is a PDA, if its NOT then it can be very difficult to use other GPS software if at all.
Do you have a picture that you can show on the forum, if you do then you need to load it to your own web space, or other host and then use the Img tag above to post it here.
The PDA in question looks like a MIO 168 apart from the fact that the speaker slots on the MIO are in a sort of 'fan' shape whereas on the one I have seen they are straight. It has a 300Mhz CPU in it.
Don't know if you can pin it down from my sketchy description?
Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
Does the information tell you what OS system is on it, could be Windows CE, or Windows Pocket PC 2003, and also what programs are included if any, then I may be able to tell you if you can use other GPS software on it.
Does is have Pocket PC on the front of the unit, if it does then it may be running Windows Pocket PC 2003 and you would be able to use other software on it, is there no link to it on the Makro web site !
I note that you say the unit is a PDA, if its NOT then it can be very difficult to use other GPS software if at all.
Interesting. Using a Medion MDPNA100 as an example, this PocketPC seems to operate as a standard PocketPC. Even when you take it out of the box, or hard reset it, the Medion Navigator software needs to be installed and as far as the hardware is conserned, on this unit the GPS receiver is fully built in (small tubby arial on top), it's a RoyalTek GPS receiver and is accessed through the PocketPC's COM1 serial port. Obviously all internal. The navigation software needs to talk to the GPS receiver at 4800 bits-per-second.
It conduses me that on Navigon's own site, on the upgrade page it states that because of technical reasons it's not possible to upgrade, yet I have proven that the Navigon Navigator 5.1 software does operate and can access the built in GPS receiver without any problems.
So, what gives? Is this statement on Navigon's site a mistake, or are Navigon trying to mislead us in saying it's not possible to upgrade a Medion MDPNA100 (I added to this disucssion with this because I got a `PNA`)?
Thing is, the MDPNA100 is WM2003 and not restricted to being a perdonal navigation unit. It actually operates as a fully fledged PocketPC! I use it as a PDA and also have some other pieces of software loaded onto it. If I was to uninstall the Medion Navigator alltogether then it becomes a bog standard PocketPC with an unused internal GPS receiver.
Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject:
Myron wrote:
Interesting. Using a Medion MDPNA100 as an example, this PocketPC seems to operate as a standard PocketPC. Even when you take it out of the box, or hard reset it, the Medion Navigator software needs to be installed and as far as the hardware is conserned, on this unit the GPS receiver is fully built in (small tubby arial on top), it's a RoyalTek GPS receiver and is accessed through the PocketPC's COM1 serial port. Obviously all internal. The navigation software needs to talk to the GPS receiver at 4800 bits-per-second.
Comments welcome . . .
You are correct, Medion has this thing about using different names for the same type of product, sometimes their PNA are just that, but the PNA100 is a PDA and not a PNA as such, its a Medion thing ! which is very confusing.
Yes, and I wish that Navigon could also get their act together, get hold of an MDPNA100 and test it with their software for themselves!
The problem I face is if Navigon are right, and I think they are wrong, then I could purchase their software, break the seals, find out it does not actually (for some strange reason) work and I can't get a refund.
In a way I have seen on someone else's MDPNA100 the Navigon Navigator 5.1 software work, but it would only navigate to the next junction. I did tell him that it's not a good idea to get the crack for it. Still, I did ask him if I could borrow his MDPNA100 for a few hours. It seemd to me that he worked flawlessly just tracking the vehicle.
The map gets updated several times a second as opposed to once a second on Medion Navigator 4.4 which makes it a little easier to relate where the vehicle is to where the pointer is on the map.
Now, before I actually spend a substantial amount of hard earned money, I would love an official statement from Navigon that their v5.1 software works on the MDPNA100.
The situation here seems stupid. I don't seem to believe Navigon that because of a `technical reason` it won't work on the PNAs. Unless their statement is missing the fact that if the unit is designed to only navigate then that's the case.
Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Posts: 2145 Location: Midlands, UK
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject:
mib150 wrote:
PocketGps
The closest I could find to a link is the page from the online MakroMail.
Cheers, MIB
That is a version of the Mio168 (re-branded), you can use most other gps software on it, TomTom 3 & 5 plus Navigon 5 (and many others), but I advise against Navigon 5 as it is so slow, the software shown on the image is a version of Navigon's version 4.x which works ok.
The unit is a normal PDA with the built-in GPS receiver.
The price is OK, but you must note that the mapping software is about 18-24 months out of date on it, BUT, the latest TomTom 5 & Navigon 5 is still 12 months out of date, it takes that long for them to process the map data before release, which still includes many missing roads and mistakes, but I use version 4.2 of the same software and it works ok most of the time.
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