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b33jay
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 Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:31 pm Post subject: STA average speed |
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When I have STA running the average speed and actual speed show on screen. However, yesterday I noticed that the average speed figure had been replaced by a single digit starting with 1 then over a period of time this changed progressively 2 - 3 -4 - 5 - 6 at which point I was home.
Anyone tell me what this means as I wasn't aware of making any changes to instigate it.
And can the average speed be removed when not in an average speed camera zone? |
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've made a few posts about removing the average speed when not appropriate but I've not had a reply yet.
I have my phone down by my left elbow so I don't see what's happening most of the time.
When it warms up a bit I'm hoping to devise a better location. All Brodit do is an air vent job and I don't want to block them or have icy aircon air blowing the back of the phone.
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b33jay
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | I've made a few posts about removing the average speed when not appropriate but I've not had a reply yet.
I have my phone down by my left elbow so I don't see what's happening most of the time.
When it warms up a bit I'm hoping to devise a better location. All Brodit do is an air vent job and I don't want to block them or have icy aircon air blowing the back of the phone. |
I've shaped a bracket from sheet ali and glued a Garmin ball to it for the sat nav so it overhangs the edge of the dash above the radio. I use a magnetic mount stuck to the centre of the dash for the phone. Both phone and Garmin fire up when ignition is turned on.
Commercial double-sided adhesive tape works wonders  |
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Kremmen
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I've got an idea. I need to do some panel beating on a 2" sheet of mild steel to get it just right, followed up with some matt black spray. The my dedicated Brodit mount will bolt to that.
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b33jay
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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To renew the question
What does the upper number represent on the STA speedo display when not in an average speed camera location?
My phone shows the lower, larger number for actual speed correctly but the smaller figure above increases in increments of one over a period of minutes. It starts in single digits but yesterday got up to 28 on a short journey.
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Leo_A
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| b33jay wrote: | To renew the question
What does the upper number represent on the STA speedo display when not in an average speed camera location? |
1 - GPS Accuracy
2 - Distance covered
3 - Indicator of falling avg. speed (invisible here, because avg. growth)
4 - Average speed. This is the distance covered divided by the time passed.
For example, you stay at some point for an hour, then begin to move at 100 mph for 1 minute. Your avg. speed is only 1.65 mph after that.
5 - Indicator of growing avg. speed
6 - Your current speed from GPS |
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DennisN
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | | I've got an idea. I need to do some panel beating on a 2" sheet of mild steel to get it just right, followed up with some matt black spray. The my dedicated Brodit mount will bolt to that. |
OSOMOUNT 360. Sticky sucker has stayed unmoving on my orange peel dashboard ever sinc I put it there two years ago. It IS removable - I took it off my previous van two years ago - it had been on that for three years. You could say I recommend them!
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Dennis.
I'm limited for mounting locations because my dashboard is so busy. There's very little room for anything extra.
Where the phone is on this example I have my Garmin:
Google search for: 9g honda civic dashboard
NB Cleaned up link to stop stretching post. 
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b33jay
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Leo_A wrote: | | b33jay wrote: | To renew the question
What does the upper number represent on the STA speedo display when not in an average speed camera location? |
1 - GPS Accuracy
2 - Distance covered
3 - Indicator of falling avg. speed (invisible here, because avg. growth)
4 - Average speed. This is the distance covered divided by the time passed.
For example, you stay at some point for an hour, then begin to move at 100 mph for 1 minute. Your avg. speed is only 1.65 mph after that.
5 - Indicator of growing avg. speed
6 - Your current speed from GPS |
Thank you very much that's really helpful.
So, to clarify, every time the STA is started it will calculate average speed based on time and distance until is it turned off? |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Or is there a way of resetting it 'on the move' is the other half of that question?
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'd just like the average speed to disappear when I'm not in an average speed zone as it serves no purpose.
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It does if you want to know your average speed. You could do this at any time in CA by tapping the speed readout. |
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Why would you want to know your instant average speed other than in a zone though ?
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Leo_A
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| Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| b33jay wrote: |
So, to clarify, every time the STA is started it will calculate average speed based on time and distance until is it turned off? |
Yes, this is trip avg speed.
When you pass SPECS, another av. calc begins while trip av calc continues in the background. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | | Why would you want to know your instant average speed other than in a zone though ? |
I can't think of any reason to want to know my instant average speed other than in a zone.
However, the ability to switch off or switch on average speed is useful if (in the unlikely event that) you come across a new (or newly modified) SPECS which isn't fully in the PGPSW database. In that case please report it to PGPSW as soon as possible.
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