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RobBrady Frequent Visitor

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mbookham Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:43 am Post subject: |
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A lost opportunity.
Why only check the few that speed or jump a red light and not every vehicle, chances are that these drivers either use false plates and or register the vehicle in a fake name with fake address, therefore the fine can't be enforced. |
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Surfer01 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Aug 13, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Worcestershire
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Is this a joke? Surely it should be uninsured vehicles and not uninsured drivers? _________________ Home is where I park it! |
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LeeB Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:24 am Post subject: |
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As far as I am aware, the French system insures the driver, as is common in other European countries. |
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buffer Occasional Visitor

Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 14 Location: Todds Green, Stevenage, Herts
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I think you will find that UK motor insurance insures the person and the vehicle which is why you you have a named and other drivers and the named driver is the polcy holder and if the insurer finds one of the "other" drivers is in fact the main driver your cover may be at risk.
It will also explain that with some policies the policy holder is insured to drive other vehicles.
I would agree that cameras should have their use extended to anpr to find unisured, untaxed/unlicensed and illegal number plated vehicles and issue immediate fines or summones by post. If it is wrong argue your case in court.
I would also suggest that cameras set up to trap motorists e.g. mobile ones would be better used as red light cameras to catch those who seem to think it's optional to stop at a red light.
Any fake number plates, names or addresses could be added to the police anpr data base to be stopped on the road and the cars taken and crushed.
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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buffer wrote: | mobile ones would be better used as red light cameras to catch those who seem to think it's optional to stop at a red light. | That';s about 98% of cyclists, isn't it? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7198 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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99% _________________ DashCam:
Viofo A119 V3 |
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Surfer01 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Aug 13, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Worcestershire
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: |
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buffer wrote: |
I would agree that cameras should have their use extended to anpr to find unisured, untaxed/unlicensed and illegal number plated vehicles and issue immediate fines or summones by post. |
ANPR cameras already do the above except they cannot identify the driver. However if the vehicle has false plates then obviously they cannot catch the offender. An illegally plated vehicle just means that the number plate does not comply with current regulations, i.e. using cursive writing but the vehicle can still be identified. _________________ Home is where I park it! |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Surfer01 wrote: | ANPR cameras already do the above except they cannot identify the driver. However if the vehicle has false plates then obviously they cannot catch the offender. An illegally plated vehicle just means that the number plate does not comply with current regulations, i.e. using cursive writing but the vehicle can still be identified. | You say that they can do this sort of thing, which I do not dispute, but do they actually make use of the information to bring about prosecutions? That is the main cut and thrust behind the French cameras. It's not about what they can do, but what they do do. (dah-dah dah dah)[/b] |
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:33 am Post subject: |
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To my very pleasant surprise, I don't believe that they do.
I have always taxed my car for 12 months at a time. However, last August, funds were tight, so I opted to only get 6 months and planned to renew in February.
I completely forgot and was driving my car between south London and Luton on a regular basis , sometimes through town, sometimes around the M25 but always using the M1 for at least six weeks before I realised my error and corrected it. We even took a trip to see friends in Somerset, so that's the M3 & A303 also.
I was dreading the arrival of our postman for the next month or two, but nothing more sinister than the usual bills dropped though our letter box.
Phew!
I dread to think how many cameras I must have passed through during those six weeks.
The flip side is that I recently parked in a private car park for about 10 minutes without permission and recieved a letter through the post within a week! _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
Android with CamerAlert, OsmAnd+, Waze & TT Europe.
TomTom GO 730, GO 930, GO 940 & Rider2.
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Surfer01 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Aug 13, 2005 Posts: 18 Location: Worcestershire
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:17 am Post subject: |
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AliOnHols wrote: |
The flip side is that I recently parked in a private car park for about 10 minutes without permission and received a letter through the post within a week! |
Hopefully you disputed it? _________________ Home is where I park it! |
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Again, I was lucky.
The letter was a "We have your number, don't park here again" shot across my bows. Which I think is a fair and reasonable approach.
But I would have disputed/ignored it had it been a fine. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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ANPR cameras locally to us just check on insurance. A friend of mine forgot his MOT ran out and drove through 4 of these cameras daily for a fortnight on his way to work. My neighbour's son however, who had no insurance, had a visit from plod later the same day that he drove past the cameras. _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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