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bendo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:04 am Post subject: Signals used in navigation app? |
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Hi!
A friend of me has a simple navigation App from pocketgpsworld.com on his iPhone 4. The App shows you in a simple way for example the actual speed.
Tried in the ICE, the german high speed train, I was surprised by getting any signal and by measuring the correct speed. Because of special windows, there is technically no way to get signals from GPS (you cannot use e.g. garmin gps tools to get the position or actual speed).
So my question is what signals does this App use for positioning? Is it a combination of gps and/or mobile network?
Thanks a lot
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:08 am Post subject: |
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How are the windows special? GPS works OK on the French TGV.
If you are talking about the CamerAlert app, then it can use either GPS or mobile network for location purposes. _________________ Richard
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15271 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:59 am Post subject: |
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It uses Apple's location API. I.e. it can use wifi, cell and gps to get it's location.
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bendo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oldboy wrote: | How are the windows special? GPS works OK on the French TGV.
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The ICE has metal evaporated windows. The french TGV hasn`t this feature so gps receiver work fine.. |
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kartracer Frequent Visitor
Joined: 26/03/2003 20:15:33 Posts: 502 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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bendo wrote: | The ICE has metal evaporated windows. |
Current GPS receivers are so sensitive it takes more than a microscopically thin window coating to prevent adequately strong GPS signals getting through to them. Even 6 years ago while I was testing a Qstarz 818 I found that both GPS and Bluetooth signals had no trouble penetrating to a GPS receiver inside a closed biscuit tin. _________________ Kam |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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kartracer wrote: | Even 6 years ago while I was testing a Qstarz 818 I found that both GPS and Bluetooth signals had no trouble penetrating to a GPS receiver inside a closed biscuit tin. |
How the hell did you get inside the biscuit tin to see what was going on? _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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Rick-uk Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 321 Location: BS20, North Somerset
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | kartracer wrote: | Even 6 years ago while I was testing a Qstarz 818 I found that both GPS and Bluetooth signals had no trouble penetrating to a GPS receiver inside a closed biscuit tin. |
How the hell did you get inside the biscuit tin to see what was going on? |
Schrödinger's GPS device? _________________ https://share.octopus.energy/dense-raven-261 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I see - you crush a small Austrian in there. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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kartracer Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | How the hell did you get inside the biscuit tin to see what was going on? |
That's where the bluetooth came in... connected to a Nokia N70 (no built in GPS), outside the box, running TomTom 5. _________________ Kam |
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