Journey Log Files?

rkm_hm · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: Journey Log Files?

According to a recent BBC Northern Ireland item - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16101141 - satmap manufacturers such as TomTom are able to access a log file - holding details of everywhere you've been - whenever you connect your satmap to the internet to update maps, etc.

Is this true of TomTom (if at all!) and, if so, where on my GO Classic can I find the offending files? Are they in plain text, or in a binary format of some sort?
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falkirk81 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject:

Not sure where they are kept or in what format, but Tomtom do collect anonymous data just like that report portrays.

This is what the Tomtom IQ routes data is based on, and if you have a LIVE enabled device with HD traffic on, they use your Tomtom's movements to see where traffic slowdowns are and average road speeds.

There are always options to turn these features off, but I believe that Tomtom knowing about me driving to work and back, or the delay going over the Tyne bridge is of no privacy issue to me.

Steven
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rkm_hm · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject:

My device is not LIVE capable, let alone LIVE enabled! But the BBC article seemed to suggest that there was something stored in the device itself - which could be accessed when connected to the internet via TomTom Home. In that case, it could probably be accessed on a PC by looking at a particular file on the SD card - if you know what to look for.

Where I go isn't much of a privacy issue, but I can imagine some people not wanting their wife to know that they've been visiting their mistress, or not wanting the police to know how fast they've been going!

I'm just curious to know what - it anything - it has stored about my journeys. Anyone know how to find/decode it?
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matthewj · Frequent Visitor Joined: Apr 03, 2006 Posts: 751

LIVE is indeed not a part of this. My old 910 gathered such info for ages. TomTom Home used to show that it was uploading the info, but I haven't seen it lately.

As for the question - I've never seen anyone describe how it works. I don't think I'd worry about that.

falkirk81 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject:

I never said LIVE was the same as the logging described in the video, simply that LIVE devices also contribute more to the logging as they are able to upload more data anonymously.

Every tomtom device 'can' record information like in the video, it is an option when you start using it to provide this data to them to improve maps, realistic journey times (IQ routes) etc.

I do not know however where it is stored or in what format.

Steven
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Tomtom GO 1005 LIVE

iPhone 12

pcaouolte · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject:

The data gets stored in a folder on the TomTom called statdata.

The files are called triplog-yyyy-mm-dd.dat where yyy-mm-dd represents the date of the journey.

triplog files only get stored if there is a file in statdata called allowtrip.dat.

The triplog files get deleted from the device once they have been uploaded to TomTom using Home. So for people that have TomTom home running automatically most of the time when you look at the device there will be no triplog files present.

The triplog files contain binary data. I have no idea how to decode it despite significant effort to do so. I also can't find anyone else on the interweb who knows how to decode it.
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mikealder · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject:

disallowtrip.dat containg a numeric 2 and nothing else will stop it saving data, you can open the allowtrip.dat file by right clicking it and choosing OpenWith/ NotePad, just make sure when you saveAs that you remember to change the file extension type from txt to dat Wink

The other thing TomTom did with this "user supplied data" a while ago was sold part of it to the Police who could then use it to locate known streches of road where speeding takes/ took place enabling them to position cameras in the best spot to earn revinue, I don't think this was in this country though I might add - Mike

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