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hoggies Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 14, 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Bognor Regis
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: 'Navigate to' on TT XL2 IQ using Lat/Long co-ordinates |
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I'm sorry, I've just spent a fruitless half an hour searching for the answer, but I can't find it. (I also posted this in the wrong place - sorry again!)
My chum has just bought the above device, and when we were comparing notes, (I have a TT ONE v.2) I was amazed to discover that he cannot 'Navigate to' by entering a Lat/Long co-ordinate, only by address or postcode.
Is this correct? Or are we both missing something simple in the instructions?
I live in France, postcodes don't work here, and addresses can be quite imprecise, so a Lat/Long co-ordinate is very often the only way to get to where you want to go.
Do all the latest Tomtoms no longer have this facility? And what other functions are missing? And why?
Looks like I might have to go elsewhere when I need to replace my ONE.
Regards
David |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Toronto CANADA
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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All the models with a '2' in the name signify an EasyMenu model with far fewer user choices.
The lack of navigating to lat/long is one of them. _________________ David |
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IanS100 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 870 Location: Southport
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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During the summer I tried to find my daughter on a campsite in North Wales using Lat/Long co-ordinates - she took the co-ordinates from a 520 which I entered into a 550; I was then directed to an offshore campsite somewhere in the Irish Sea. We later double checked the 2 sat navs but they both gave different readings, no idea why or which was correct. I'll try it again this year between a 750 & a 550 and I'll take my water wings just in case |
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EricWB Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 310
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have just discovered the wonders of Tyre software that can plot a route using Google maps, then create a file for transfer to a TT device.
That can then be followed as an itinerary route, I think it uses lat/long coordinates for each of its way points and it works fine. |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Toronto CANADA
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Except EasyMenu models don't have Itinerary Planning so that won't work on them. _________________ David |
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hoggies Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 14, 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Bognor Regis
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, David.
Does the TT XXL IQ have full functionality, do you know? (I'm just looking to the future when I may need to replace my ONE)
I don't need (or want to pay for) any 'Live' functions, so what are my options?
Grateful for any advice
Cheers
David |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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That model should but make sure it has text-to-speech on it. _________________ David |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:36 am Post subject: |
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(originally posted in reply to the duplicate of the topic in another forum section)
Not ALL new TomToms have the Navigate to Lat/Long feature missing, just the cheaper ones.
TT seem to have decided to make a bigger difference between the high-end and low-end models, but in typical TomTom style they don't bother to tell you what features they have left out, thus annoying the pants of an awful lot of people.
There is a "tweak" you can do to these models with the "simplified" (a.k.a. "dumbed-down") menu to give you some of the other missing features back, but I don't *think it gives you Lat/Long functionality back.
Have a search of the TomTom section for "custom menu" to find more details. |
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mccririck Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Posts: 330 Location: Midlothian
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Cutting out a simple feature like navigate to long/lat just shows how pathetic TomTom are. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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mccririck wrote: | Cutting out a simple feature.... |
TT would say they DIDN'T cut it out.... they made a new (cheaper) model that didn't have it.
We don't know that they didn't do extensive user research. They may have found that only a very small percentage of their target market for the new models ever used that feature.
Personally, I think it's stupid to leave stuff off that existing users have got used to WITHOUT telling people exactly what the different models can, and can't do. |
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mccririck Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Posts: 330 Location: Midlothian
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh they definitely cut it out. It would have been there in the basic code for years, they must have made a conscious decision to remove it, and the thing is it's such a basic thing why would they even bother researching how many people use it? |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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How about they got lots of calls from users who didn't understand the coordinate system and got lost as a direct result of not using it correctly, quite easy to muddle up DMS, DMM or DD and whilst the device can sort out certain entries it doesn't cover them all.
Easy way to reduce the number of support calls about a specific function is to delete the functionality, shame they didn't just remove the menu icon so those that want the feature just have to add a custom menu but that would have been too easy! - Mike |
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mccririck Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 21, 2010 Posts: 330 Location: Midlothian
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt it. Why did they leave off all those other features from the Easymenu system that they ended up reinstating because people complained? It's really bizarre, and I dont believe they had complaints about it from stupid people, most people who dont understand a feature dont use it. |
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Guivre46 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 1262 Location: West London
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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hoggies wrote: | Thanks for that, David.
Does the TT XXL IQ have full functionality, do you know? (I'm just looking to the future when I may need to replace my ONE)
I don't need (or want to pay for) any 'Live' functions, so what are my options?
Grateful for any advice
Cheers
David |
XXL is the last non-Live TT in production with full functionality. It only has 2 Gb of internal memory and consequently the new W&CE map has to be used in separate zones. The 100x/Via series supposedly has non-live versions, but I've not seen them advertised in the UK. _________________ Mike R [aka Wyvern46]
Go 530T - unsupported
Go550 Live [not renewed]
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