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Bosun Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 473 Location: Wakefield,West Riding of Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: Compass Crossover Speed |
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What is the best speed to switch from the electronic compass to the GPS compass.
I know the electronic works best when stationary and the GPS best when on the move but what is the best crossover speed ?
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Gibbo10 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Sep 21, 2008 Posts: 262 Location: Swindon, Wilts
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I always have mine set to 2kph. |
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FrequentFlyer Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'm lost. I had no idea there was a difference Assuming 2 Kph is best, where do I go to set it ? Thanks. |
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Gibbo10 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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FrequentFlyer wrote: | OK, I'm lost. I had no idea there was a difference Assuming 2 Kph is best, where do I go to set it ? Thanks. |
Go to settings, then GPS settings then "Use GPS Compass" _________________ Satmap A10. Platform 09.02.21, Software version 1.50 Satsync 1.50
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Bosun Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Gibbo10 wrote: | I always have mine set to 2kph. |
Thanks Gibbo.
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LostMike Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jan 17, 2008 Posts: 369 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I think it may depend on when you are likely to use the compass. As a walker I am likely to use it when stationary. In this case I do not want it to be confused by a poor GPS signal making it think I am moving and giving a misleading answer. So I have set the change over speed to 4 kph. For runners or cyclists however the logic may be quite different.
I hope that makes sense. _________________ LostMike
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FrequentFlyer Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 964 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I'm still confused what is does and how it works ?eg While walking along, I decide to look at the compass, are we saying that below your setting, (or above it) it may be wrong ? |
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rothers Regular Visitor
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Yes this does rather beg the question - if it is necessary to change to GPS direction above a certain speed can the non-GPS compass be trusted, if not why have it at all ?
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kartracer Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know the specifics of the Satmap Active 10, but in general terms an electronic compass is less likely to be correct unless you have just recalibrated it for your present environment. However, a GPS heading is pretty meaningless when stationary. So, if you are stationary or moving at very low speed an electronic compass is useful. At higher speeds the directions worked out by GPS are more likely to be accurate. _________________ Kam |
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dales Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 04, 2008 Posts: 754 Location: Knaresborough, North Yorkshire.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly right, kartracer.
So I set my Garmin to use Electronic Compass below 2mph, and GPS Compass above 2mph.
Dales. _________________ nuvi 2599LMT-D, oregon 700, basecamp, memory-map. |
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4ndynorfolk Regular Visitor
Joined: Jul 02, 2008 Posts: 237 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force.
Where setting option comes in is when headings and bearings are shown in the data boxes.
I will the latest and previous manuals. |
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planetnine Regular Visitor
Joined: Dec 11, 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Lincolnshire, England.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: |
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4ndynorfolk wrote: | I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force... |
No Andy, the electronic compass is for all intent and purposes, useless, and won't give a stable result within 30-45 degrees (even when newly-calibrated). Once you are moving above the threshold speed, the interpolated direction compass is far more accurate and useable.
I'm not sure what the issue is with the staionary readings, but it's pointless. _________________ planet nine
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dales Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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A good quality GPS electronic compass is rated at plus or minus 2 degrees or so, once calibrated and held level. (I cannot speak for the Satmap's specification!)
Certainly you should use the GPS compass, once moving.
But when stationary, in difficult ground, with poor visibility, you sometimes need to be sure that you are setting off in broadly the right direction (before the GPS compass kicks in). That's when the electronic compass is reassuring.
Dales. _________________ nuvi 2599LMT-D, oregon 700, basecamp, memory-map. |
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Bosun Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 473 Location: Wakefield,West Riding of Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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planetnine wrote: | 4ndynorfolk wrote: | I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force... |
No Andy, the electronic compass is for all intent and purposes, useless, and won't give a stable result within 30-45 degrees (even when newly-calibrated). Once you are moving above the threshold speed, the interpolated direction compass is far more accurate and useable.
I'm not sure what the issue is with the staionary readings, but it's pointless. |
If I sit at home and use the Satmap electronic compass it shows magnetic north to be in the same direction as a traditional compass,so I wouldn't say "useless".
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