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My 720 start up screen - ever seen this?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: My 720 start up screen - ever seen this? Reply with quote

It never rains...

Anyone ever seen this on a TT720? I wonder if it means the battery is knackered and thus despite being on power cannot run. A reset then pushing start button fires it up, plays TT music and shows the logo and then brings up this screen? Any thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the developer screen, it is normally possible to access that by some method which escapes me. However, if you cannot get it to boot normally then there is a problem but it isn't battery Confused

Might be worth trying the clearflash utility.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That screen usually appears after holding the power button for a very long time on startup.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think it could be the power button stuck down - but internally. A reset turns it off. Power turns it on BUT it does not get seen by the computer so you cannot connect. Suspect may have to take it apart and see what I can see...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mightyyid wrote:
Think it could be the power button stuck down - but internally. A reset turns it off. Power turns it on BUT it does not get seen by the computer so you cannot connect. Suspect may have to take it apart and see what I can see...

If it was stuck then it would power on without intervention, does it?

The 720 is fairly simple to strip to take a look, let us know how you get on.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
mightyyid wrote:
Think it could be the power button stuck down - but internally. A reset turns it off. Power turns it on BUT it does not get seen by the computer so you cannot connect. Suspect may have to take it apart and see what I can see...

If it was stuck then it would power on without intervention, does it?

The 720 is fairly simple to strip to take a look, let us know how you get on.


True - all stripped and nothing obvious at all. Cleaned everything and it all looks and works fine other than not connecting to a computer. If I put navcore on an SD card and insert it, it makes no difference. It continually boots to the black and white screen and does nothing else and nothing I do will seem to get it seen on the system. The charging light is on so it would seem to be charging. Disconnecting the battery made no difference.

Very confused....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That screen will come on with every model if you hold the power button and keep holding it, maybe 30 seconds or so.

So, it seems the power button is sticking in the down position when you press it.

Got any WD-40 in Oz? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks David.

That would make sense, but when you reset the unit it does come on again automatically. However, when I took it apart, the power microswitch was fine - or seemed to be, with a distinct click when in operation. No WD40 sprayed in but I did use compressed air to give it a good blast to see if that made a difference. Maybe WD40 is worth a shot.

Appearance wise the switch seemed fine and as I say, seemed to have a clear differentiation between off and on.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, only fair to update this when people have been helpful.

Taking unit apart and nothing was obvious. Googling seemed to indicate the power button was stuck down but actual button was fine and gave a noticeable click when pressed. However, everything else seemed fine so I took a gamble that the solder was dodgy in some place.

I then used my soldering iron to loosen each of the four points on the switch and then let each harden again. Because it dries so quickly the actual switch could not come off, but thought i would give it a go.

Back of the net! It worked. With the unit in pieces and screen attached, it started to boot up when connected. Put it all back together and it was fine too. Just tested it today and played with power button numerous times and all worked fine.

One unit back to normal with a lot of luck it has to be said. But maybe this will help someone in the future. Thanks to all...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant! Thanks for posting to update us. It's a first as far as I'm aware for that issue but always good to know of a potential fix for reference albeit few will be equipped or brave enough to attempt it!
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