Possible new camera Types

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Hi all

There have been some new cameras put up along the A249 in Kent anyone know if these are a new type of speed camera.

They are mounted on green poles under a couple of the bridges. there are 4 in total and they consist of two cameras side by side and each camera has what looks like a sensor mounted on top, they are also set to look along the road.

Anyone know what they are.

Thanks

Oldboy · Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

Have a look at this thread -
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=38495
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Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Thanks for the link.

They are definetly not Traficmaster.

I will try and take a photo and get it uploaded.

Nickwolf · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 219

They sound like automatic number plate recognition system (ANPRS) cameras to me.

Nick.

peterc10 · Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject:

I think the most likely explanation of these can be found in the new bridge being built over the Swale on this road.

The bridge is built on a DBFO (design build fund operate) basis. As I understand it the consortium are funding the construction and getting paid for the traffic that uses the bridge and also the new road on the Island. I think the amount they are paid also depends upon how well the traffic flows (average sppeds).

I think these cameras are to monitor the flows, both in terms of numbers and average journey times so that the amount they get paid can be calculated.
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Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Thanks for the reply,

That may be the possible explanation, although where the cameras are positioned they will only see traffic on the A249 and not the traffic that actually uses the bridge, anything coming onto the A249 from the surrounding area will be picked up.

Or is that just a scam to get paid for more cars than what is actually using the bridge.

peterc10 · Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:25 am Post subject:

Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

Sorry for the delay.

Picture of Camera is at

http://piggypics.mysite.orange.co.uk/

Thanks

Sema_4 · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject:

peterc10 · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:

Nope I don't think that is strictly correct.

The bridge over the Swale and new approach roads has just been opened and there is a design build finance and operate contract whereby the operator gets paid on a complex formula of vehicle numbers, type and average speed over certain sections of the bridge and approach roads. This operates all the way from the Stockbury viaduct (A2 junction) through to the outskirts of Sheerness (finishes by the docks).

As I said before I believe these cameras are there to record the traffic movements and speeds so that the payment to the operator can be calculated. In order to do that they need to record the number plate of the vehicle to calculate average speeds, but this is not the same as the Police operated ANPR cameras.
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Sema_4 · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject:

You could well be right about the reason for them being in that location peterc10, I don't know anything about the road in question, but the camera's they are using are identical to the photo I saw in the ANPRS article I quoted in my last post.

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peterc10 · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

Yep it could - so please everybody note cos we don't want any false alerts!
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Paul80 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 246

So they can read your registration number and record your time taken over a fixed distance but they are not speed cameras.

Obviously only time will tell, but remember if you get a ticket in the post you read it here first.

robby3 · Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:

hello all, just had to join up to let you all know that these cameras on the a249 on the high poles just as was described earlier ARE speed cameras as the 60 pound fixed penalty notice i recieved from the 14th july will testify,,, 3 points for 74 in a 70 im gutted.
there have been speed camera signs in place for over a year and they have just been turned on,,, in conjunction with then opening of the new bridge i believe.
im so

off that stretch of motorway is not known for rta's and it is almost impossible to see them as a recognised speed camera,,,im now terrified that i will be recieving another 1 or 2 as its quite common to be doing 80 or 90 on this stretch of road. money grabbing bastards,, i spose they have to pay for that nice new bridge somehow!
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