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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: TeleAtlas denies talks of TomTom Split |
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With analysts hinting that Tomtom may have to sell off TeleAtlas in order to meet loan payments TeleAtlas have been quick to deny this is being discussed.
TomTom took a considerable financial gamble with the acquisition of mapmaker TeleAtlas following a bidding war with Garmin.
The combined effect of the purchase price and the global downturn has resulted in a very gloomy outlook for the Dutch Satnav brand with ever increasing losses and suggestions that loan covenants may be breached.
TeleAtlas confirmed that there had been no discussion on a possible split and that the two companies were stronger as a result of their integration.
But the real question is can TomTom hold on long-enough and survive the downturn? If the investors and creditors demand tough penalties then they may force TomTom into selling off TeleAtlas.
TomTom shares dipped following the suggestions of a split. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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0101 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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If they did sell it off then TT might have enough cash to hire some decent software programmers so that their products could actually work properly. That might bring them in some new customers and keep old ones that are currently discontent. |
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p60 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Plaistow London
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lets hope they can drop teleatlas altogether and get some more uptodate maps from Navteq,the latest map I just downloaded is worse still for directions to get on and off the A13 at junction with A112 as i've mentioned before this junction was completed nearly 10 years ago still no slip roads on map and directions are a shambles. |
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Philip Regular Visitor
Joined: 12/09/2002 14:25:05 Posts: 141 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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0101 wrote: | If they did sell it off then TT might have enough cash to hire some decent software programmers so that their products could actually work properly. | I have never had any problem with the programming - all my issues have been with the quality of the mapping data. _________________ Philip |
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gatorguy6996 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Feb 16, 2008 Posts: 695 Location: Florida, USA
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO, Darren, that's going to be a tough step for them to avoid. With the creditors recognizing that a fairly quick sale of TA makes the bulk of their obligations disappear, I expect that those due their money are pushing for just that. I think August is the deciding month as I recall, and that's fast approaching. _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr. |
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253 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Would any of this affect the quarterly Map updates many of us have paid for? _________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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gatorguy6996 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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I see no danger of that. TomTom has a hedge in that the map subscription is a yearly renewal and prices are not "locked in". And there's no chance of TomTom going to Navteq mapping IMO, even if TA is sold off. How much time and money would be involved in adapting IQ data to Navteq maps, considering there are roads and interchanges represented in each that don't appear on the other. Way too much trouble for TomTom to use anything but TeleAtlas maps. _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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As gatorguy says, I'd think it unlikely but given all of this is supposition at this stage we can't give you a definitive answer. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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253 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one, put my mind at rest.
I was wondering if the 'little guy' was going to loose out again. _________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Split? There are times when I look at my map and wonder if they ever were together!! _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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gatorguy6996 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | As gatorguy says, I'd think it unlikely but given all of this is supposition at this stage we can't give you a definitive answer. |
That's why my posts are sprinkled with IMO dust _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr. |
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