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Joined: Mar 25, 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Herefordshire
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Random screen displays
I am a newly frustrated owner of TTone 3rd edition Europe who expected an Itinery feature. I must thank Mike for his Menu training course, which has worked successfully for 10 days, until yesterday. Switch on and got random jumps into Itinery, tried to plan AtoB Hereford to manchester, but random jump via Cologne - I am planning a german holiday and trying itinery from Calais to Weimar. I deleted .mnu, reloaded original backup, and then pressed the dreaded RESET button. But all to no avail. Now got jumps to random police stations in Ireland. This package should come with a government health warning - Normal Service was resumed when I tore off the plastic screen guard! Is this a design feature?
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject:
Welcome to the forum to you both, using the device with the screen protector fitted is not a good idea as it leads to exactly the problem you describe, as you have both found out normal service is resumed once it is removed.
One other problem that can cause similar problems is when dirt gets trapped between the screen and the front bezzel, in this instance insert the corner of a sheet of A4 paper between the screen and bezzel, run it around the edge of the screen to dig out any rubbish and the problem will usually go away - Mike
Mike, Dennis, and any others - all readers for that matter...
This discussion leads on to a burning question that I have, actually...
Whether proper commercial screen protectors (that is decent quality ones, specifically bought, not the film that comes with new units), are actually a good thing or a bad thing.
So far, I have not purchased one for my 720, but I have been minded to.
What I do find however, is that my replacement 720 I have now, doesn't seem as good, dragging the screen wise, as the one that went back for a different reason.
I do find that using a stylus greatly improves screen dragging however, as the problem seems to be the surface of the display - it is actually quite, erm, what word am I looking for here... er - help me out folks - what I mean is my finger 'sticks' to it - it is quite frictional, if that makes sense, and thus drags, and my finger gets 'stuck' on the screen, rather than my finger moving across it freely and smoothly...
So the map jumps a bit as I drag.
With a stylus, its much improved however. So I wonder if a screen protector, aside from actually helping against scratches, would make the surface dragging better, by being smoother.
If nothing else, they would protect against stylus drags and gouges too.
But I then worry that they would make the whatsitcalled-thingumyjiggy, digitizer response, even worse, if my new device is worse than my last, as it seems. As another thing it often does as I drag, is drop me back to the main screen randomly if I drag fast sometimes.
So do others of you experience this, and do any of you have comments either way, about proper commercial quality screen protectors etc?
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:
If you want to use a stylus with the device then I would say you should use a screen protector, the device is intended to be used with a finger, a combination of zoom and panning the map can make the use of a finger very viable (even for the selection of a traffic even, which is a small target).
I have never used a stylus or protector on a TomTom PNA device, although I would never consider using a PDA without a screen protector in place - Mike
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject:
I generally use my fingers, but if I want to be a bit more precise, eg for identifying a particular carriageway, I use a Bic pen with the cap on. I've had my current device for about 2 1/2 years and the screen is unmarked (as was the PDA before it after 4 years use)
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Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
My key reason, aside from it's obvious scratch protection anyway, for wanting to consider a screen protector, is because of the current high friction of, or 'drag' of the existing screen surface.
Like I say, my finger, when dragging, keeps getting 'stuck'.
Do other people find this too?
And would I be right in thinking a screen protector might help with this, making my finger more 'glide' over the screen, than 'drag'.
Don't get me wrong, this is not a moan about my TT (though again, I don't seem to remember my previous 720 being so bad). I just wanted general advice, so thanks for all the replies so far - helpful and handy to know, cheers all.
Oh - does anyone else get the screen dropping back to main screen display sometimes, when browsing and dragging the map screen fast?
I don't get a 'dragging' problem, but I will admit, I put the screen protector on pretty much when I bought the Tomtom anyway so don't know what it is like bare. This was really because I saw the benefits a protector made to my kids Nintendo DS screens that they use a stylus on, I wasn't sure if the scratches so apparent on their protectors would start appearing on the Tomtom so got the protector just to be on the safe side and like I said, I haven't had any issues at all.
I don't get a 'dragging' problem, but I will admit, I put the screen protector on pretty much when I bought the Tomtom anyway so don't know what it is like bare. This was really because I saw the benefits a protector made to my kids Nintendo DS screens that they use a stylus on, I wasn't sure if the scratches so apparent on their protectors would start appearing on the Tomtom so got the protector just to be on the safe side and like I said, I haven't had any issues at all.
Thanks mate - care to share the make and price etc?
Same to others that whole-heartedly can recommend their current screen protector too...
EDIT: (quickly done, straight after posting, so no confusion likely):
Sorry mate, just seen further up you mention it is a Brando one.
I got mine from a seller called avonvilla on ebay uk (if the link gets removed). I also e-mailed him and he got me the same screen protector for my canon camera and JVC video camera so you can try e-mailing him for the right oneif your version isn't listed. I paid £4.99 + £1.50 p+p.
EDIT, he lists all Tomtoms I think, I just let him know which one I wanted.
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:
Going right back to the first two posts... I don't think the plastic sheet covering the screen when you buy the unit was ever meant to be a screen protector while the device was being used!
@ Andy - agreed, to the point that I now thought that the screen 'protectors' that is the Film over for while in transit etc, is now a BLACK, none-see through affair, for this very purpose, hence I don't know how people are still using the device with it on.
Both my 720's had a dark TomTom logo'd one, not a clear, see-thru affair like you get on mobile phones etc.
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