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jayjay365 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Prob with Garmin i3 re routes |
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Hi,
I upgraded mine and my Mum's Gamin i3 map sys to City Navigator Europe NT vs 9, provided by Garmin Europe with unlock codes.
Since then, the option to 'Avoid Motorways' has changed to 'Avoid Highways'. Thought this odd, so I emailed Garmin europe last year to ask if avoiding highways was the same as avoiding motorways. They said yes, and assured me that it wouldn't avoid A roads and Duel carriageways.
But it does. So the only way to avoid motorways is not to use the 'avoid highways' option, but to put in via points along the roads you wish to travel. Not a happy bunny about this. The alternative is to take twice as long to get anywhere via B roads!!! ARGGGGHHHH!
Tested out this theory on a b road off the A6, progammed in to take us to Buxton, fastest route, but with option ticked to avoid highways. Although we were only about 100 yards from joining the A6, the garmin insisted we needed to use a different route, using B roads - even when we turned onto the A6, it still was insisting we come off and use the B roads. In the end I switched it off and used a map.
My sis had these probs from the start with her touch screen (think it's a nuvi) model and she has had the 'avoid highways' from scratch and V9 map.
I've taken this up with Garmin Europe and explained the prob, but no-one has replied.
I think there are lots of embarrassed faces around there.
ETA: Does anyone know how I can get back the avoid motorways (as in UK) back? Both came preloaded with vs 8 which has been replaced by vs 9, so I don't have a Cd to go back to vs 8. |
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jayjay365 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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BUMP!
Anyone got any clues on this one? Anyone else suffer the same prob? |
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missing_user
Joined: Aug 30, 2008 Posts: -7
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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BUMP! BUMP!
Not the same Unit or the same software [GPS 60CSX and CityNavigator v9 non-NT]
BUT
I have travelled thousands of miles in UK and europe without problems but when I set AVOID Highways I had appalling routes, avoiding 'A' roads!!!!!!!!!
My settings are usually :-
So my findings are:-
Avoid Highways means avoid 'A' road!
There is no setting to avoid Motorways!
Avoid Toll Road does not avoid the Severn Bridge! |
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jayjay365 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Strumble! Thanks for your reply! Glad it isn't just me, was beginning to think maybe there was something I was missing.
Soooo what's the answer? I have emailed Garmin Europe about this again. Will let you know if I get a reply.
I emailed them last year when I updated to vs 9 and asked if the option to avoid highways would actually avoid A roads, etc, and they assured me it wouldn't do that.
ETA: I have a little old romahome, it's not fast enough to go on the motorways, but I would like to use the A roads and duel carriageways! ! |
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missing_user
Joined: Aug 30, 2008 Posts: -7
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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When v9 came out it would not allow units to use the Swiss Toll Autoroutes. Later [3 months], they updated the unit software and it corrected it.
As a caravanner I towed 4200 miles to Rome and Sorento using my two units and only had one problem at Lake Garda. The new software has corrected that fault.
So your problem is not one I would have seen UNLESS I changed it to your settings, as I always prefer the Motorways and the AutoRoutes in Europe! |
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jayjay365 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, here's what Garmin Europe have to say:
You may have seen "Avoid Motorways" previously but this would have changed to work universally across Europe and the USA. The i3 is the basic entry model and avoid highways will avoid the roads that you have listed. Some of our higher spec units have the option to be more specific in road preference. I have included more information below regarding routing algorithm's.
The vehicle settings are defined as a mask which indicates what travel is legally allowed on a link or turn-restriction. It does not specify any information about width, weight limits, height restrictions or any other dimensionality of the particular vehicle type.
So really the key benefit is to keep your vehicle where it is legally allowed to travel. Unfortunately, this is often not where your vehicle is physically able to travel.
We do hope to eventually add data sources that provide more attribution for vehicle dimensionality at some point but I am unable to give a time scale for this.
The other function of the different vehicle mode is to change the ETA (Estimated Time on Arrival) and ETE (Estimated Time En-route).
Each road contains routing data and the GPS unit makes a mathematical calculation based on the speed limits of each road. The GPS unit does not have the ability to know which type of road is best suited for your vehicle. If at any time the GPS routes you down an unsuitable road for your vehicle I suggest you carry on along the current road until the GPS re-calculates a new route.
Our auto-routing algorithm attempts to find reasonable routes based on user preferences and limitations of processing time and memory space. The preference of "Faster" and "Shorter" does not necessarily yield the absolute fastest or shortest route, rather, the routing algorithm uses the preference as a guide for decision-making when calculating the route. Also, we frequently update and improve our algorithms, which may cause different route paths to be calculated by different versions of our software even if all the preferences are the same. In all cases, we strive to calculate routes that are reasonable and that allow the customer to efficiently navigate to the intended destination.
Kind regards
So there you go. |
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jayjay365 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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So avoid highways will avoid the roads that you have listed
means that you have to programme it to avoid say the M6 by listing it somewhere???? Even more confused now! |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | So avoid highways will avoid the roads that you have listed
means that you have to programme it to avoid say the M6 by listing it somewhere???? Even more confused now! |
I suspect they are referring to the roads you referred to in your original email to them.
i.e.
Quote: | i3 is the basic entry model and avoid highways will avoid the roads that you have listed [in your original email]. |
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