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alistairm1 Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 30, 2005 Posts: 104
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Swiss cameras |
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I have searched the forum for an answer to this, but I haven't found one. (Doesn't mean to say there isn't one, just that I haven't come across it)
Is there an easy way to identify the Swiss cameras in the speed camera database?
I download the speed-zoned file (ASC format), but there does not seem to be any country code to identify which camera is where, so it's hard to decide which ones to delete.
Alternatively, is there a version of the database which does not contain camera locations for those countries where location tools are not permitted?
TIA
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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It's illegal to have speed camera warnings on your device when using in Switzerland. |
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alistairm1 Regular Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lost_Property wrote: | It's illegal to have speed camera warnings on your device when using in Switzerland. |
Which is EXACTLY why I want to identify them and remove them.
Or do you mean it is illegal to have ANY camera database on a satnav in Switzerland? |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Or do you mean it is illegal to have ANY camera database on a satnav in Switzerland? | Yes, sorry, didn't make myself clear.
Recently, somewhere on this forum, someone mentioned Mio had removed the Swiss cameras when connected for updates.
Other countries cameras were left on but it's my understanding, from reading these posts, it's illegal to have ANY camera database on a device. |
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GerryC Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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The view from the PGPSW team is on the Switzerland covered? thread. There are 12 cameras in the database according to the link on the download page. Unsure of an easy way of identifying them though (apart from drilling down the map and deleting them one by one).
Team, Would it be possible to list the Swiss cameras from the main database (must have country details there) so that those that wish to comply with local law know which cameras to delete? Would be simple to delete via POIEdit if you knew the camera IDs. _________________ Gerry
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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GerryC wrote: | Would it be possible to list the Swiss cameras from the main database | Did a quick search and came up with this:
REDLIGHT:41493@50
REDLIGHT:37624
TRUVELO:41491@60
REDLIGHT:41494@50
TRUVELO:41497@60
REDLIGHT:41492@50
TRUVELO:41496@80
REDLIGHT:41495@50
TRUVELO:31089@120
TRUVELO:37102@100
GATSO:27901
GATSO:27900
GATSO:28068
I'm not sure if it's complete. _________________ Richard
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alistairm1 Regular Visitor
Joined: Mar 30, 2005 Posts: 104
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks for all the replies. I think (from the reading I have done in the forums) that this is going to become a bigger issue if more countries take the same approach as the Swiss.
I have seen that POIWarner has fitted a "panic" button to the latest releases, which apparently does an instant delete of all selected POI files. Just the thing as the local constabulary pull you over.
I like the suggestion from GerryC of having a means of identifying the country. I seem to remember that the early consolidated continental speedcam files had a country identifier, rather than the camera type identifier in the later releases.
It is still an excellent database, and I will still be downloading it on a regular basis. Just wish I could find a new camera and get it free!! |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14901 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Oldboy wrote: | I'm not sure if it's complete. |
I agree with you Richard - downloaded tonight, CSV set and imported into Autoroute Express to look.
Except, gatso 28068 seems to be just inside France, on the autoroute or whatever it's called, running alongside the border south of Geneva. _________________ Dennis
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Two of them are obesiting!! |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: |
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You'd still be wise to find out the exact law.
Is it illegal to have SWISS cameras on the unit or ANY camera database? |
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missing_user
Joined: Aug 30, 2008 Posts: -7
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Looking at the present .gpx file in relation to my proposed caravanning holiday to Switzerland this summer:-
There are only 12.
Unless you are visiting Geneva [2 cameras] or Winterthur [6 cameras] there are only four other cameras on the Autoroutes.
Two around Lake Geneva [where I will not be going]
Two around Zurich [where I will be passing through]
I will remove all 12 Swiss Cameras before loading the database to the units.
I am putting those two around Zurich in as normal 'waypoints' with a personal code and will not call them cameras!
The only problem being that 'towing' speeds are not reflected in the camera database!! |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15226 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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have checked the master database and yes, there are only 12:
27900
27901
31089
37102
37624
41491
41492
41493
41494
41495
41496
41497
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SimonCatlin Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jan 11, 2004 Posts: 565 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Many, Many Years ago, there were several others I know of. One on the autoroute by A14/A2 junction. And the other is as you drive into Zurich Airport. That was a clear one. Hidden by a tree in dark grey and after quick successive signs going 90, 70, 50 and boom! I have not been back to Switzerland since, so I have no idea if there is a speeding fine waiting for me... There are others I remember around Zug, Rotkruez, Cham and Hunenburg, but is was over 10 years ago. _________________ iPhone5, TomTom, Google maps, Navfree, Viewranger and Apple Maps (ekk) |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10643 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | Oldboy wrote: | I'm not sure if it's complete. | Except, gatso 28068 seems to be just inside France, |
MaFt wrote: | have checked the master database and yes, there are only 12: |
_________________ Richard
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15226 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Oldboy wrote: |
MaFt wrote: | have checked the master database and yes, there are only 12: |
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well, 12 marked as 'switzerland' - will check the location to see exactly where it is and amend if needed!!
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
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28068 deffo in france! |
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