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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: Sat Nav for Italy??? |
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Hi Folks,
Found this forum while googling for information about satnavs as we are heading off to Italy next year and need a gps unit.
We have never had a system before so are new to the whole GPS thing and could really use some advice as to the best deal to go for.
I have read some horror stories about some Garmin's not working great in Italy, is that true?
Any advice and recommendation gratefully received.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Alex |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'll find that Garmin works fine in Italy. Map detail and coverage of countries such as Italy and Spain has improved a great deal over recent years, Garmin use Navteq map data, others such as TomTom use TeleAtlas.
I would consider a device from Garmin, TomTom, Mio, CoPilot and Navman.
e.g. TomTom ONE XL EU can be had for less than £200, a has a widescreen and will serve you well. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Darren.
The comments I read were on a US website and had at least half a dozen people saying that the Italian maps were unusable. Not old comments, all made within the last 6 months or so.
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Alex |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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winniewinser wrote: | Thanks Darren.
The comments I read were on a US website and had at least half a dozen people saying that the Italian maps were unusable. Not old comments, all made within the last 6 months or so.
Thanks
Alex |
Odd, I have used both Navteq and TeleAtlas map data in Italy and not had any major issues. Some very small back roads were not mapped but driving along autostrada and finding our accommodation is towns was no problem. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: |
Odd, I have used both Navteq and TeleAtlas map data in Italy and not had any major issues. Some very small back roads were not mapped but driving along autostrada and finding our accommodation is towns was no problem. |
That's good to know, thanks very much for your help.
I am looking at the Garmin Nuvi 250, TomTom One V3 or a Navman at the moment. I don't need bells and whistles, just a to b directions.
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Alex |
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missing_user
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I toured with a caravan to Geneva, Lake Garda, Venice, Bologna, Rome and Sorrento in June.
I used Garmin units with MapSource CityNavigator Europe v9, and only had one problem with the mapping at Lake Garda [it was the unit's problem - now been corrected with a new unit software release]
Plan your routes on the PC and transfer to the unit.
Buy a unit that can use many vias and store routes [not all do] and one you can use away from the car.
The 60CSX was great in Rome or Venice while walking between attractions or for marking and returning to a bus or car park!
Mapping software v10 [2008] will be available at the start of the year. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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strumble wrote: | I toured with a caravan |
Aha!!
I THOUGHT there was something dodgy about you.... |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
Cheers
Alex
strumble wrote: | I toured with a caravan to Geneva, Lake Garda, Venice, Bologna, Rome and Sorrento in June.
I used Garmin units with MapSource CityNavigator Europe v9, and only had one problem with the mapping at Lake Garda [it was the unit's problem - now been corrected with a new unit software release]
Plan your routes on the PC and transfer to the unit.
Buy a unit that can use many vias and store routes [not all do] and one you can use away from the car.
The 60CSX was great in Rome or Venice while walking between attractions or for marking and returning to a bus or car park!
Mapping software v10 [2008] will be available at the start of the year. |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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OK, we took a look at some units in a shop today and despite the shop person being pretty useless we decided we like the look of the widescreen versions.
So my options are as follows :-
Garmin 250w (£149)
Navman S70 (£170)
TomTom One XL Europe (£180)
Which is the best one to go for? Or should I be looking ate different models?
I have a budget of around £200. Don't need Bluetooth or MP3.
I continue to read reviews on Amazon and the like about people having proplems with aquiring satelite connections with various units, is this a problem anyone has found?
I always tend to over-research purchases like this and end up confusing myself stupid!
Help appreciated.
Thanks
Alex |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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From your short list I would go for the One XL, it has an easier to use interface than the Garmin product and a much faster GPS signal acquisition. The TomTom product has a better POI warning system than any of the other devices on your list, and is easier to customise for warnings should you need them.
One final consideration is device supportability over a long period of time, again TomTom score very high on this count, even the first PNA devices they brought out can run relatively new software and mapping, Navman sadly don't have this reputation, Garmin is quite good for the maps but not too hot for software updates from what I have experianced - Mike |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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And finally .....
Get it for yourself as a Christmas present and spend the next six months accustomising yourself to it. Take time to learn to ignore it occasionally and see the result of re-routing. The Italians (I found last year) have a habit of building new roads all over the place, particularly toll motorways. I always had my Tom Tom set to avoid motorways (cos' I'm a cheapskate not wanting to pay) but a couple of times I found myself on them entirely because the roads had been rebuilt (followed the Satnav along a road which suddenly turned into a one way access to a motorway). _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Mike.
I shouldn't worry that the One XL is an older product? Just make sure it has up to date maps at buy time right.
Cheers
Alex
mikealder wrote: | From your short list I would go for the One XL, it has an easier to use interface than the Garmin product and a much faster GPS signal acquisition. The TomTom product has a better POI warning system than any of the other devices on your list, and is easier to customise for warnings should you need them.
One final consideration is device supportability over a long period of time, again TomTom score very high on this count, even the first PNA devices they brought out can run relatively new software and mapping, Navman sadly don't have this reputation, Garmin is quite good for the maps but not too hot for software updates from what I have experianced - Mike |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Dennis. It is going to be a little crimbo pressie to myself.
Good advice below, thanks
Alex
DennisN wrote: | And finally .....
Get it for yourself as a Christmas present and spend the next six months accustomising yourself to it. Take time to learn to ignore it occasionally and see the result of re-routing. The Italians (I found last year) have a habit of building new roads all over the place, particularly toll motorways. I always had my Tom Tom set to avoid motorways (cos' I'm a cheapskate not wanting to pay) but a couple of times I found myself on them entirely because the roads had been rebuilt (followed the Satnav along a road which suddenly turned into a one way access to a motorway). |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't worry about the age of the One XL it is a relatively new product, I am not too sure if it is supplied with a latest map Gaurantee certificate, but if it isn't you can allways take the issue up with TomTom, I would expect version 710 maps with the One XL these days - Mike |
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winniewinser Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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mikealder wrote: | I wouldn't worry about the age of the One XL it is a relatively new product, I am not too sure if it is supplied with a latest map Gaurantee certificate, but if it isn't you can allways take the issue up with TomTom, I would expect version 710 maps with the One XL these days - Mike |
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