'Variable' Speed, Speed Cameras

Mikeact · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: 'Variable' Speed, Speed Cameras

I would like to make a suggestion, although I stand to be corrected in my observations. These comments apply to the 'Zoned' camera file as I'm not familiar with the two smaller databases.
I was coming down both the M42, and M25 recently, (where these cameras operate, I assume at any given time.)
I have assumed that the icon that you use to indicate a variable limit is the Red Circle with sort of a black blob in the centre, (which is fine.)
The problem, as I see/saw it is that this icon is not consistent...in fact I would suggest that both stretches of these motorways are double checked.
I found that only sometimes was this icon used, some cameras show nothing at all, and some show the 70 icon...all a bit frustrating. (And of course , I do know that not every overhead gantry has cameras) I would just like to see the 'Black Blob' used for each and every variable camera which would make it very clear to everybody...or have I missed something here ?

Andy_P · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject:

I travel round that section of the M25 a lot and every camera shows correctly with the "blob" (actually an asterix) symbol. Also, it doesn't miss any.
I had my son craning his neck out the back to double-check one only last weekend.
Are you using the un-verified mobiles file as well, as people keep submitting new locations based on gantries with signs on but which don't have cameras.

Can you point out any exact locations (aproximate Lat/Long) where you are having a problem? Then we can all run demo routes on our machines to check it out as well.

Andy_P · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

Also, I've just checked all round the M25 on the Google map on the submissions page and as far as I can tell, there are no present fixed cameras shown on there that AREN'T "var". There are some 2greyed-out" 40's prom past roadworks, which shouldn't show on your recent database and there are also a few 70mph Mobile sites, but theyshould be showing with a different icon unless you've got your files mixed up.

I don't know the M42 so well, so there could be some missing cameras there (although I'd doubt it), but a quick look at the Google map again shows only the "var" signs present.

Don't know what to suggest except a good look at all your ov2 files and .bmps...

Mikeact · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that..to be frank, I can't..off the top of my greying head. I suppose I could run the 'Advanced Planning' option on my TT6, and then run the demo back slow, but I imagine that would only show where I have the 'Blobs?', which wouldn't relate to my original comment. The reason I specifically noticed this, was because I only have the warning sound turned on for mostly 30/40 Gatsos and Mobiles....and the Asterisk/Variables. The other speed warnigs are just flashed up with no sound...if that makes sense. So we were expecting to be continually 'belled' on both Motorways for variables , but we definately weren't.

Mikeact · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:

I just did an 'Advance Planning' trip along the M25 (Heathrow/ J10 A3)..and counted 5 variables...there were also a couple Gatso 70's and a mobile 70.
By the way, what do the following actually mean :
Round Circle with a question mark,
Mobile Camera with a question mark
A mobile camera by itself..(no speed showing...so why would that be ?)
And a 'gatso camera pocketGPS temp', (so what is that for ?)
Could you also point me in the right direction to show me the Google map with the cameras on that you mentioned ? Thanks.
Sorry to be a pain, but all the Variable ones appear to be listed OK, I have a total of 27 listed, spread between 39.6 / 118 miles away from down here.
Mike.

Andy_P · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:12 am Post subject:

Just to confirm, a demo route along the M25 from the NE corner of Heathrow at A4 flyover (N 51.48356 W 0.50021) to the middle of Junction 10 with A3 (N51.32247 W0.45059) gave 8 Gatso "Var" warnings and no others using the Version 5.023 (14 February 2007) speed-zoned database.

Mikeact · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:03 am Post subject:

Thanks, you've been really helpful.
Regarding,
'And a 'gatso camera pocketGPS temp', (so what is that for ?)'
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It's a plain camera icon listed under the Gatso's eg Temp:12011@40
I will double check all my camera listings ASAP. Thanks again.

Andy_P · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:49 am Post subject:

mikealder · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:09 am Post subject:

Don't delete the redlight.ov2 or temp.ov2 or their corresponding bmp files, these files are supplied with both the consolodated by type AND speed zoned file sets.
I would also have a look for any TomTom supplied cameras, these (if present) would go quite along way to explaining the "extra" alerts you seem to be getting - Mike

Mikeact · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:21 am Post subject:

I know I'm being daft, but, where is the 'Variable' one shown in your list above ? !

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DennisN · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject:

Mikeact · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject:

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