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jandkw99 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: Non powered GPS (cable) for O2 XDA |
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Hi,
I am looking for a GPS solution for my O2 XDA. One problem I am facing is that this morning I was informed that the O2 XDA which uses a serial GPS, must have a powered cable since the O2 won't power the GPS reciever. Is this correct? Is there some way around this?
Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum, but I was thinking cables when I was looking at the solution.
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:14 am Post subject: |
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What you normally get is a Y cable. Coming from the cigarette lighter socket, it provides both the XDA and the serial receiver with power. Plus, it establishes the data connection between the XDA and the receiver. It is very uncommon to power the serial receiver separately (though it should be possible) _________________ Lutz
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Pc-Mobile Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Non powered GPS (cable) for O2 XDA |
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jandkw99 wrote: | Hi,
I am looking for a GPS solution for my O2 XDA. One problem I am facing is that this morning I was informed that the O2 XDA which uses a serial GPS, must have a powered cable since the O2 won't power the GPS reciever. Is this correct? Is there some way around this?
Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong forum, but I was thinking cables when I was looking at the solution.
Regards,
Jason |
It depends on what GPS you use. If by serial GPS you mean a "mouse" GPS then yes, you must have the cable (usually from the GPS manufacturer) which is pecific for your PDA. That would power both PDA and GPS. The GPS has to be powred and it is not coming from the PDA. Though PDA does not have to be powered.
If you mean other stand alone GPS (Magella/Garmin etc), which are all serial GPS, you do not have to power PDA externally and the GPS use batteries, provided you have the right cables. _________________ Pc-Mobile
http://pc-mobile.net/gps.htm |
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RMIM Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Im hoping that lbendlin and Pc-Mobile are about as you seem to know a bit about this Y cable thing.
My problem is
http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=29065
http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=153541#153541
from reading your posts I don’t think the cable I was sold
" This is an adapter cable to convert a Holux, Rikaline, or Fortuna GPS lead (with femail PS2 connector) to a mini USB connector. In particular, this cable will enable you to plug your GPS unit straight into our powered amplifier car mounts (available separately)."
All I bought was a cable that had PS2 on one end and mini USB on the other.
Not the optional power bit.
(I guess I miss read the advert) I thought I could turn the end of my ps2 rikaline into a mini usb (which fits in my mda compact pda) and get it to work on tomtoms. It works fine on my laptop with a ps2 to full sized usb adaptor. I though you could do the same thing on a pocket pc!
Have I been wasting my time with this cable?
Would a powered Y adaptor (cigarlighter/ps2/mini usb) work? Will it let me hook up my MDA compact with my rikaline 6010? Do they have y adaptors that have mini usb?
Do mini usb ports on pocket pc's NOT give out power, like full sized USB ports?
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, the Pocket PC is a USB client, not a USB host. You are trying to connect two USB clients together - this won't work unless you have a bridge (a bump in the cable with some USB Host circuitry)
The PDA is most likely not powerful enough to feed the GPS, you will need a separate power supply. _________________ Lutz
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RMIM Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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lbendlin wrote: | Firstly, the Pocket PC is a USB client, not a USB host. You are trying to connect two USB clients together - this won't work unless you have a bridge (a bump in the cable with some USB Host circuitry)
The PDA is most likely not powerful enough to feed the GPS, you will need a separate power supply. |
Yes Im starting to understand now.
But Rikaline have confused me (and a guy on ebay) - they have both said that my PDA - T-Mob MDA Compact will only work on bluetooth.
Now I have been to the Rikaline web site and have seen a specific cable (Y cable with car cig) GPS Cable for Mini USB PDA A-6032 Smart GPS Cable.
Also they say on the web site its for (Smart GPS Cable, w\Mini USB Connector) Q-Tek S1000.
But a Q-Tek S1000 is another name for MDA Compact no?
Will I have luck with this cable?
What web site can I buy it from?
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Pc-Mobile Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I do not know what are the cables concerned but one thing I can confirm:
Mini XDA can only use BT GPS, it is not possible to connect any GPS via cable, whatever GPS/cable it is. _________________ Pc-Mobile
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RMIM Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Pc-Mobile wrote: | I do not know what are the cables concerned but one thing I can confirm:
Mini XDA can only use BT GPS, it is not possible to connect any GPS via cable, whatever GPS/cable it is. |
Well that's what the ebay guy (he sells GPS cables etc.) told me. He said the MDA Compact is simply not wired up inside to do it. Bluetooth Only.
But maybe thats why this cable is called SMART Cable. Whats Smart about a cable? - maybe it has some extra electronic trickery inside that will let you wire up your GPS?
Im not making this cable up it on their web site.
http://www.rikaline.com/accessories.htm
And it even says for Q-Tek S1000 (unless the Q-Tek S1000 is not identical to a MDA Compact.)
Anyway - I look for a cheap bluetooth maybe. |
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Pc-Mobile Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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So did it work?
That is interesting.
I have heard of one for Tungsten E, which is also listed there, but never one for PPC.
There is only a picture but no description so I cannot make more comments.
As with the Kirrio solution for Tungsten E, I did not think there is enough market to warrant such developement and I think such "smart cable" would not find many takers even if it works.
That is because Many PDAs (even the budget ones) now almost inevitably have BT as standard and BT GPS are getting cheaper and cheaper.
So BT is the way to go particularly for PDAs without a serial port like Mini XDA. _________________ Pc-Mobile
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RMIM Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Pc-Mobile wrote: | So did it work?
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Well I have not bought it. And I don't think I will bother. I may just get cheap bluetooth. I'm sure a cable like that is expensive!
The only reason I wanted my MDA Compact to work with my rikaline GPS is because I already have a rikaline, so why waste money on something else.
I spent 8 pounds on a cable that was rikaline(ps/2) on one end and mini usb on the other. I thought that would do they trick.
I have since learnt while on this forum that it is like hooking up a scanner directly with a printer! Im new to PDA's - I was fooled by the mini USB thinking it was the same as a full sized USB. |
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